Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:10 am
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:00 pm
Jussie Smollett has been found guilty of five counts of faking a "homophobic," "racist," "right wing" hate crime.
If "White Supremacy" is such a massive, national danger, why did he find it necessary to fake one? Why didn't he just go out and find some "White Supremacists" and taunt them, or invite them into beating him up? They should have been pretty willing to oblige, shouldn't they? Why did he have to pay two Nigerian friends to stage the event? And why would anybody wish to be beaten up, anyway?
What is this need for fake instances of "White Supremacy"? If they're happening all the time, why should it be necessary to fabricate any? Shouldn't evidence of such a national threat be abundant?
Thoughts?
I don't understand the point of the line of questioning above. I mean, what are you trying to say, that there's no such thing as racism against blacks or prejudice toward homosexuals?
There probably is, though I've never seen any. (I've heard the odd quip about homosexuals, but "sticks and stones...," as they say.) So no, Gary, I'm not saying whether or not it happens. I'm asking why, if it's (according to the Left, and plausibly after "global warming") the biggest concern on earth, a "White Supremacist" threat promising to swallow the nation, in fact, why anybody would
need to fake it? Shouldn't it be everywhere, all the time, just waiting to leap into action?
It's been known to happen from time to time.
Maybe so. But "time to time" is way too small-scale to justify the panic the Left wants induced. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans are neither racist, nor focused on anybody else's pecadillos, nor "supremacist" of anything. And that's really easy to discover. I'm sure you know it.
As far as the existence of "white supremacists." I suppose some whites probably are just that in a very strict sense.
Maybe. But then, why is to hard to find them?
It's a pretty blatant fact that Europe, Eurasia, and North America are considerably wealthier than Africa and various other regions.
That means nothing. Joe Biden is immeasurably wealthier than me. So is Nany Pelosi, of course, and Bernie Sanders. Does that mean they stole it from Africa? Maybe it does. But I didn't. And most people didn't. (
https://www.businessinsider.com/persona ... -to-wealth)
Either a person can think that whites are ahead in the game because we're better at various important things or they can believe that we're ahead in the game because of whatever unfair practices or they can believe some combination of both.
Why is Lebron James richer than me? Did he do me some unfairness?
No, he's better at doing something I can't, or something I chose not to do, but that people value.
Which do you think is the case?
Neither. It's a false dichotomy. It is not the case that if somebody is richer than somebody else, they stole the money or took some unfair advantage. Neither is even the way most people get rich.
Are whites just better (superior) at certain things to non-whites or are non-whites generally being prevented from getting ahead by unfair practices?
No to both. And if "white supremacy" is the way people get to the top, then how come the most successful two communities in North America are non-white and immigrant? I'm speaking of the Indian (East) and Chinese. They both exceed "whites" in achievement and wealth per capita.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-tren ... americans/
Are we now to start fearing "brown supremacism" or "yellow supremacism"?
What nonsense that would be, right?
Or do you see some other possibility whereby neither racism nor a belief in the supremacy of white culture exists?
It's not a matter of what "I" see, Gary. I can be wrong, as can anybody who just goes with an impression. But neither is it a matter of what you have been suggesting, evidently. It's a matter of what the research proves, as above. Wealth does not mean exploitation, and "whites" are not the top demographic.
But again, why, in a supposedly wildly-racist America, did Jussie Smollett have to fake a hate crime? Shouldn't he have very easily been able to locate the resources to produce a real one?
What a question!