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That which is believed to have STARTED...will by definition END.

''Revelation'' is this immediate unknown knowing. If you know your birth, then by definition you will die.

Birth and Death are appearances of the same ONE unknown knowing reality. Always here, and never not here.

There is no last days, or end of time...except in this mental construction, constructed by no one and every one, same one.

I may regret asking you these questions... as I really don't have interest in sorting through word salads. But if you could actually clarify without using your salad spinner, some concepts might be interesting to explore...

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm That which is believed to have STARTED...will by definition END.

Why must it end? Do we really know that?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm ''Revelation'' is this immediate unknown knowing.

What do you mean by 'unknown knowing'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmIf you know your birth, then by definition you will die.

Same as first question... how do we know that?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmBirth and Death are appearances of the same ONE unknown knowing reality. Always here, and never not here.

Doesn't 'always here' mean the same as 'never not here'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmThere is no last days, or end of time...except in this mental construction, constructed by no one and every one, same one.

In this phrase 'no one and every one, same one', does 'no one' mean there is not anyone, or that there is not only one? If there is not 'anyone', then there can't be a 'same one'.

Is it not possible to speak more clearly about these concepts without all the convoluted verbal orgasm convulsions?

Is delirium an escape, an adventure, or unavoidable?

What is the purpose of 'this mental construction'?

Is there anything to be figured out or revealed?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm That which is believed to have STARTED...will by definition END.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmWhy must it end? Do we really know that?

Start implies a beginning, the word/concept..known as '' beginning '', has absolutely no meaning without it's opposite known. As a frame of reference.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm ''Revelation'' is this immediate unknown knowing.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmWhat do you mean by 'unknown knowing'?

Absolute knowing, is one without a second, meaning, not-knowing knowing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmIf you know your birth, then by definition you will die.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmSame as first question... how do we know that?

Same as first answer.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmBirth and Death are appearances of the same ONE unknown knowing reality. Always here, and never not here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmDoesn't 'always here' mean the same as 'never not here'?

Meaning can only mean something where there is it's equal and exact opposite meaning.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmThere is no last days, or end of time...except in this mental construction, constructed by no one and every one, same one.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmIn this phrase 'no one and every one, same one', does 'no one' mean there is not anyone, or that there is not only one? If there is not 'anyone', then there can't be a 'same one'.

One and not one are the same one..there's no distinction, except in this conception, aka knowledge of opposites.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmIs it not possible to speak more clearly about these concepts without all the convoluted verbal orgasm convulsions?

Is delirium an escape, an adventure, or unavoidable?

What is the purpose of 'this mental construction'?

Is there anything to be figured out or revealed?

Yes, this mental orgasm is very revealing, it's the realisation for those who have bothered to figure it out... is the end of knowledge...and with that end of knowledge, comes the peace that passes all understanding. So yes, very purposeful in that sense, well for me it is anyway, don't know about you, that's your business only.

Delirium is an escape from knowledge, not that one can escape knowledge completely, one has to refer to it now again on demand, especially when one forgets something they have remembered.

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Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pm I may regret asking you these questions... as I really don't have interest in sorting through word salads. But if you could actually clarify without using your salad spinner, some concepts might be interesting to explore...

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm That which is believed to have STARTED...will by definition END.

Why must it end? Do we really know that?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pm ''Revelation'' is this immediate unknown knowing.

What do you mean by 'unknown knowing'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmIf you know your birth, then by definition you will die.

Same as first question... how do we know that?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmBirth and Death are appearances of the same ONE unknown knowing reality. Always here, and never not here.

Doesn't 'always here' mean the same as 'never not here'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:31 pmThere is no last days, or end of time...except in this mental construction, constructed by no one and every one, same one.

In this phrase 'no one and every one, same one', does 'no one' mean there is not anyone, or that there is not only one? If there is not 'anyone', then there can't be a 'same one'.

Is it not possible to speak more clearly about these concepts without all the convoluted verbal orgasm convulsions?

Is delirium an escape, an adventure, or unavoidable?

What is the purpose of 'this mental construction'?

Is there anything to be figured out or revealed?

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Lacewing to DAM wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:53 pmI may regret asking you these questions... as I really don't have interest in sorting through word salads. But if you could actually clarify without using your salad spinner, some concepts might be interesting to explore...

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