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HOW could ANY thing be 'missed' with "another's" own definition?Jori wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:16 am My own definition of philosophy: Philosophy is the methodical study of the nature and principles of abstract concepts such as reality, knowledge, morality, religion, society, and politics, by means of logical reasoning and critical thinking. Did I miss anything?
WHY would you even ASSUME humans 'need' any such thing as this above? Obviously they do NOT.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:39 am Yes, you have missed the critical function of what is philosophy.
The question is WHY do humans need,
"[a] the methodical study of the nature and principles of abstract concepts such as reality, knowledge, morality, religion, society, and politics, by means of logical reasoning and critical thinking."
WHY? and a few 'WHYs' thereafter.
Thus "what is philosophy" must always be qualified with its 'why' especially when we are doing philosophy at present and not merely semantics nor language games.
In the case of philosophy and for philosophical sake, the 'WHY' is very critical.mickthinks wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:06 pm I don't see that the answer to '"what?" must also answer "why?", though that is not to deny that "why?" can be a more important question.
There really is not a, "thing," called philosophy. It's not a particular discipline, like music, or chemistry, or history. It's essentially an approach to knowledge at its most fundamental level, and as such, is a totally failed effort. Ninety nine percent of the corpus of recorded, "philosophy," is worse than nonsense and more dangerous than any religion. H.L. Mencken correctly described it thus:Jori wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:16 am My own definition of philosophy: Philosophy is the methodical study of the nature and principles of abstract concepts such as reality, knowledge, morality, religion, society, and politics, by means of logical reasoning and critical thinking. Did I miss anything?
Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself.
That is what the word 'phil-o-sophy', literally, once meant.
There you go again with your shallow and narrow thinking.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pmThere really is not a, "thing," called philosophy. It's not a particular discipline, like music, or chemistry, or history. It's essentially an approach to knowledge at its most fundamental level, and as such, is a totally failed effort. Ninety nine percent of the corpus of recorded, "philosophy," is worse than nonsense and more dangerous than any religion. H.L. Mencken correctly described it thus:Jori wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:16 am My own definition of philosophy: Philosophy is the methodical study of the nature and principles of abstract concepts such as reality, knowledge, morality, religion, society, and politics, by means of logical reasoning and critical thinking. Did I miss anything?Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself.
Everything you say is an excellent example of exactly what philosophy is--academic nonsense.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:39 amThere you go again with your shallow and narrow thinking.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pmThere really is not a, "thing," called philosophy. It's not a particular discipline, like music, or chemistry, or history. It's essentially an approach to knowledge at its most fundamental level, and as such, is a totally failed effort. Ninety nine percent of the corpus of recorded, "philosophy," is worse than nonsense and more dangerous than any religion. H.L. Mencken correctly described it thus:Jori wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:16 am My own definition of philosophy: Philosophy is the methodical study of the nature and principles of abstract concepts such as reality, knowledge, morality, religion, society, and politics, by means of logical reasoning and critical thinking. Did I miss anything?Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself.
The point is 'philosophy' is reducible to an inherent human impulse to facilitate its "teleological" mission of 'survival' of the human species [not specifically of the individual(s)].
The problem with this inherent impulse is, it is very vague and hidden within the psyche of humans whilst most are aware of its wide ranging outer manifestations.
This is why the originally philosophy was instinctively associated with 'wisdom' i.e. the "optimal application of knowledge on hand" or "a way of life" which is directed ultimately to the survival of the individual[s] and critically therefrom to that of humanity as a species.
Because the inherent impulse of 'philosophy' is vague and hidden, it has been hijacked as 'normative philosophy' and bastardized especially as academic philosophy.
The most effective understand of "what is philosophy" [teleologically for survival] is to trace its inherent impulse to the human brain and to discover how they are represented by which neural networks. Therefrom we will be able to make more expeditious progress re 'What is philosophy' for the effective and optimal survival of the human species.
