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I admit the response was intentionally satirical. It's because one cannot take anything bahman writes seriously. When I tried to explain that table salt is a compound of the two element sodium and chlorine, his response was: "Chlorine is another gas unrelated to this discussion. Chloride is not salt." That kind of insistent ignorance is almost breathtaking.Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:00 amShiny shiny! Me like shiny!
(Just kidding. I enjoy your enthusiasm.)
Hold up your Left hand, closed fist, and look at the knuckles.
Point forefinger to the sky.
Stick thumb out straight.
The digits are shaped like L, for Left.
Right is the other hand.
The right hand is the mirror opposite of the left hand.
Bi-lateral symmetry, yin and yang, duality.
Crazy bad actors need the adults to straighten things out every once in awhile, at least until the particular civilization can't bounce back from the cycle, and dies (Rome, Athens, and perhaps Western.)
If that means what we understand about reality must be right and we have to live in conformance to that understanding, that is absolutely correct. Almost every human problem can be put down to failing or refusing to discover the nature of reality or living in defiance of that nature.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:26 pm ... there are an infinite number of possible wrong answers, and mankind is bent on discovering them all and believing them,...
I've always liked the way H.L. Mencken said it:Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:56 pmRCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:26 pm ... there are an infinite number of possible wrong answers, and mankind is bent on discovering them all and believing them,...
Seems to happen with every fresh crop that's special and better than what came before.
What?
What if survival requires killing other beings, like animals or humans, which is evil?Vitruvius wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:20 am Right stems from the necessarily valid relation between the surviving organism and causal reality. For the simplest organisms this is purely physiological rightness to reality; i.e. chemical compatibility, import energy/export waste. Then, organisms capable of behaviours must behave in a way conducive to survival., Surviving animals must necessarily be physiologically and behaviourally right to reality, or die out. Then human beings developed intellectual intelligence - and "right" took on myriad new dimensions. Fundamentally however, we remain subject to the overall principle, that we must be right to reality to survive.
What is right'is just 'that', what EVERY one could agree with.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:26 pmI admit the response was intentionally satirical. It's because one cannot take anything bahman writes seriously. When I tried to explain that table salt is a compound of the two element sodium and chlorine, his response was: "Chlorine is another gas unrelated to this discussion. Chloride is not salt." That kind of insistent ignorance is almost breathtaking.Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:00 amShiny shiny! Me like shiny!
(Just kidding. I enjoy your enthusiasm.)
Hold up your Left hand, closed fist, and look at the knuckles.
Point forefinger to the sky.
Stick thumb out straight.
The digits are shaped like L, for Left.
Right is the other hand.
The right hand is the mirror opposite of the left hand.
Bi-lateral symmetry, yin and yang, duality.
Crazy bad actors need the adults to straighten things out every once in awhile, at least until the particular civilization can't bounce back from the cycle, and dies (Rome, Athens, and perhaps Western.)
The question of what, "right," means is important. I could have said, "the opposite of wrong," of course, which would have been true. Since for every, "right," answer to any question, there are an infinite number of possible wrong answers, and mankind is bent on discovering them all and believing them, I would enjoy any serious answer to the question.
But survival, for human beings, does NOT require killing of other beings. But, then again, this all depends on how you define the word 'beings'.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:26 amWhat if survival requires killing other beings, like animals or humans, which is evil?Vitruvius wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:20 am Right stems from the necessarily valid relation between the surviving organism and causal reality. For the simplest organisms this is purely physiological rightness to reality; i.e. chemical compatibility, import energy/export waste. Then, organisms capable of behaviours must behave in a way conducive to survival., Surviving animals must necessarily be physiologically and behaviourally right to reality, or die out. Then human beings developed intellectual intelligence - and "right" took on myriad new dimensions. Fundamentally however, we remain subject to the overall principle, that we must be right to reality to survive.