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1. A line begins with a 0d point and ends with a 0d point.

2. Both 0d points are the same thus necessitating the beginning as the same as the end.

3. The line is a loop unraveled where the points of origin occur in multiple places.

1 Point P is the same as Point Q if and only if P and Q have the same space-time coordinates.

2 If P is Q then a line from P to Q is a line from P to P, which is "a line" in name only.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:58 pm 1 Point P is the same as Point Q if and only if P and Q have the same space-time coordinates.

2 If P is Q then a line from P to Q is a line from P to P, which is "a line" in name only.

A 0d point equals a 0d point, both 0d points are the same. There seperate positions show the curvature of reality around them.

There seperate positions show the curvature of reality around them.

lol No.

But let me ask you; if any two points are the same point, doesn't that mean that all points are the same point? So that your line/loop is just a point? Everything is just a point? Everything is just the same point? The entire universe is, in fact, (still) a singularity?

Are you saying that the Big Bang never happened?

mickthinks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:37 pm There seperate positions show the curvature of reality around them.

lol No.

But let me ask you; if any two points are the same point, doesn't that mean that all points are the same point? So that your line/loop is just a point? Everything is just a point? Everything is just the same point? The entire universe is, in fact, (still) a singularity?

Are you saying that the Big Bang never happened?

"A 0d point equals a 0d point"....

The Big Bang is continually happening as the convergence and divergence of space. The point is superpositioned in a multitude of states thus allowing reality to curve around this singular entity. The multiplicity of points is a form curving through this singular entity.

This necessitates a 1d point which is directed through itself as itself as pure form and a 0d point which is absent of form. The contrast of 1d point and a 0d point allows for the forms.

We know a 1d point exists intuitively considering we count (multiply) points and the 0d point cannot be multiplied as one would be multiplying 0.

The Big Bang is continually happening ...

lol No.

The multiplicity of points is a form curving through this singular entity.

Ooooh—Word salad! It's a kind of admission that you've run out of credible arguments to defend your indefensible position.

That reminds me:

mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:38 pm Yes, Eodnhoj, I still can't follow a word you say, and I have enough physics and mathematics to be pretty sure it's because you don't know what you are talking about.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:58 pm The Big Bang is continually happening ...

lol No.

The multiplicity of points is a form curving through this singular entity.

Ooooh—Word salad! It's a kind of admission that you've run out of credible arguments to defend your indefensible position.

That reminds me:

mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:38 pm Yes, Eodnhoj, I still can't follow a word you say, and I have enough physics and mathematics to be pretty sure it's because you don't know what you are talking about.

1. Things are continually expanding and contracting from points. All observable reality, when inspected up close results in a point. An object at a distance results in a point and upon closer inspection expands into further phenomenon. An object up close results in a series of inter connected points given observing the smallest detail of said object results in the appearance of a point.

2. False. If I have two or more points the space between them is formed based off where these points are applied. The same occurs for any other phenomenon. The space between these phenomena is curved in accords to these relations.

Now if only 1 point exists and this point is superpositioned in multiple states, the multiple states of the single point curve the reality around them. Reality bends itself around a single point which existe simultaneously in multiple states.

The fact that both points can be described as "0d" does not dictate that ALL of their properties are the same. It still remains that one point is at the beginning of the line, and one point is at the end. These properties are sufficient to differentiate the two points.

alan1000 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:53 pm The fact that both points can be described as "0d" does not dictate that ALL of their properties are the same. It still remains that one point is at the beginning of the line, and one point is at the end. These properties are sufficient to differentiate the two points.

And yet they are also sufficient to call both of them "points".

As opposed to me talking about the teacup at the end of the table and the teapot at the other end.

The difference between a teacup and a teapot is, of course, too deep a metaphysical question to be fully explored here.

alan1000 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:53 pm The fact that both points can be described as "0d" does not dictate that ALL of their properties are the same. It still remains that one point is at the beginning of the line, and one point is at the end. These properties are sufficient to differentiate the two points.

Nothingness has no properties therefore 1 0d point or many 0d points is still a 0d point.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:51 pm 1. A line begins with a 0d point and ends with a 0d point.

2. Both 0d points are the same thus necessitating the beginning as the same as the end.

3. The line is a loop unraveled where the points of origin occur in multiple places.

You're loopy, that's for sure.