How do we get conditioned?
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:57 pm
We get conditioned through pattern recognition. Pattern recognition is done through the rewiring of neurons. Initial patterns are what we call instinct.
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What makes an outcome positive?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:08 pmWorks better if there are rewards/positive outcomes versus negative outcomes, too.
Human judgment.
The person in question likes it.tillingborn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:13 pmWhat makes an outcome positive?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:08 pmWorks better if there are rewards/positive outcomes versus negative outcomes, too.
Nailed it.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:25 pmThe person in question likes it.tillingborn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:13 pmWhat makes an outcome positive?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:08 pmWorks better if there are rewards/positive outcomes versus negative outcomes, too.
The pros being in excess of cons. Seldom is there any purity of outcome in what is usually an either/or situation.tillingborn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:13 pmWhat makes an outcome positive?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:08 pmWorks better if there are rewards/positive outcomes versus negative outcomes, too.
What do you mean by 'conditioned'? To believe something? To do something? To accept something?
Pattern recognition is done by a comparison of new input with known data. Only after the similarities have been identified is the new datum classified in a category; only after enough new inputs have been identified as having similar characteristics and therefore belonging to the same category is a pattern recognized. And then - if the category is significant - new neural connections are established. Nothing gets rewired. There are no wires in the brain.Pattern recognition is done through the rewiring of neurons.
No. there are no "initial patterns" and what we call instinct are very complex thought-patterns that have been established through the many-generations-long survival of our ancestors.Initial patterns are what we call instinct.
So how do you judge pros and cons?Dubious wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:50 amThe pros being in excess of cons. Seldom is there any purity of outcome in what is usually an either/or situation.tillingborn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:13 pmWhat makes an outcome positive?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:08 pmWorks better if there are rewards/positive outcomes versus negative outcomes, too.
Usually by its effect long-term. Short-term can be misleading.tillingborn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:01 amSo how do you judge pros and cons?
It's up to one's judgement professionally or personally to make that call; analyzing a response to something to determine its possible effect. There is no fixed set of criteria that can be universally applied which is the reason philosophy never came up with any. When you're sick or hospitalized for example, the criteria in treating the problem is choosing what makes you well. Put another way, rheumatic fever can't be treated with a flu shot. If there is a single word that could describe the set of criteria by which to judge the pros and cons I would choose eudaemonia.tillingborn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:12 amYou still need some set of criteria by which to judge pro and con. The point is what are those criteria?
That's right! They decide and chose what makes them contented...for the time being. The criteria for that can change from one day to the next.tillingborn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:16 amFair enough, it's just for some a good life is sex and drugs and rock and roll, while for others it's living in a monastery.