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inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:55 pm
by Advocate
The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:33 pm
by DPMartin
Advocate wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:55 pm The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.
welcome to the world, farmers do the same to their livestock.

if you don't have your own, then you need some one else's. so are you complaining that you weren't born into the world with a silver spoon in your mouth?


the masses are always manipulated, news media and internet are great tools to accomplish that in todays world. for example, you can turn the herd, or stampede the herd in a moments notice. you can feed and milk them and then slander them like farmers do when they are of no use any more, only its done in financial terms now.

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:46 pm
by Advocate
>if you don't have your own, then you need some one else's. so are you complaining that you weren't born into the world with a silver spoon in your mouth?

Straw man. I'm complaining that Anyone should be born into a world where they're immediately subject to the whims of whoever happens to have the most power at that moment in history. This is not conducive to or most often compatible with meaningful freedom or self-aware progression.

>the masses are always manipulated, news media and internet are great tools to accomplish that in todays world. for example, you can turn the herd, or stampede the herd in a moments notice. you can feed and milk them and then slander them like farmers do when they are of no use any more, only its done in financial terms now.

Yeah, and it sucks.

I, for one, am not livestock. That's also why i'm unsuccessful. Privilege is integration and it is only granted to you by others when they are comfortable granting you power, and that happens when you prove your mundane nature by way of compliance with the emotional status quo. <spit>

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:52 pm
by DPMartin
Advocate wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:46 pm >if you don't have your own, then you need some one else's. so are you complaining that you weren't born into the world with a silver spoon in your mouth?

Straw man. I'm complaining that Anyone should be born into a world where they're immediately subject to the whims of whoever happens to have the most power at that moment in history. This is not conducive to or most often compatible with meaningful freedom or self-aware progression.

>the masses are always manipulated, news media and internet are great tools to accomplish that in todays world. for example, you can turn the herd, or stampede the herd in a moments notice. you can feed and milk them and then slander them like farmers do when they are of no use any more, only its done in financial terms now.

Yeah, and it sucks.

I, for one, am not livestock. That's also why i'm unsuccessful. Privilege is integration and it is only granted to you by others when they are comfortable granting you power, and that happens when you prove your mundane nature by way of compliance with the emotional status quo. <spit>
unless you're the one with power then you are the livestock, it doesn't change, and it isn't supposed to change. who is the power and who is the livestock might change, even how its administrated such as forms of government, but the system never changes because human nature never changes and the perceived needs that man has of himself are always the same.


you really need to read history.

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:26 pm
by Advocate
>unless you're the one with power then you are the livestock, it doesn't change, and it isn't supposed to change. who is the power and who is the livestock might change, even how its administrated such as forms of government, but the system never changes because human nature never changes and the perceived needs that man has of himself are always the same.

By livestock, i mean those who are compliant.. Sheeple. What do you mean? I'm not compliant, thus i am not integrated, thus i am not privileged. Privilege is granted after you prove your compliance. That's how it works. If you start with privilege by accident but aren't compliant it is quickly taken away. What you must be compliant to changes all the time. It's the winds of majority tyranny. If you're part of the majority - normal, compliant, you are exercising power by virtue of the fact that the system accounts for your needs and desires. Integration is identical to privilege. The more integrated you are - the more society works for your good, the more privileged you are. The livestock issue is about whether you're supporting the system in return.

The system changes constantly. The purpose of all knowledge, wisdom, and understanding is actionable certainty. People universally want stability because it's a prerequisite for everything Else they want. This is a mathematical fact, not just a basis for morality. How to get it is contingent upon what other variables you're accounting for, by what priorities, at what scale. The system changes toward greater stability. That means greater tyranny in some places/times and better infrastructure in others.

Whether and how compliance equals integration also constantly changes. A pedophile can have exactly the same opinions and acts at two different ages and with no other change in reality but time having passed, suddenly and almost universally be considered a moral monster of the worst possible stripe, and dangerous and unappealing in all ways. The guy who takes his mules on car-intended roads hasn't changed his ways or priorities from ways people lived when he was created. He can't suddenly have Become wrong to do what he's doing. The harm he's supposedly causing was created around him, not vice versa. (nice livestock tie-in, eh?)

>you really need to read history.

Literally everything you read is history because it wasn't written in the present. Care to be more specific?

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:47 pm
by Belinda
Advocate wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:55 pm The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.
Yes, and feudalism too.

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:49 pm
by Belinda
Belinda wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:47 pm
Advocate wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:55 pm The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.
Yes, and feudalism too. Relative power structures all systems which is why communism failed,

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:48 pm
by Advocate
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The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.
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Yes, and feudalism too.
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This one's a duplicate now and the other one has an extra layer of quotes, FYI.

Re: inequal distribution is inherent

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:08 pm
by Terrapin Station
Advocate wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:55 pm The results of wage slavery in almost all cases includes mere subsistence for workers while providing unearned additive progress for business owners. Worker pay is kept as little as possible and their positions are kept as unstable as possible to maximize that unearned wealth over the earned portion. Compound this day by day and you get the absurd imbalance of capitalism almost immediately and almost universally.
Nothing above has anything to do with "inherent."