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Abortion can Not be a one-woman decision because that would eliminate half the world's population from mapping it's future.

Those who wish to eliminate gender must invent an artificial womb straight away.

Joe Biden calls himself a pro-abortion, devout Catholic.

In other words, he's a doublethinker.

Abortion is made ethical by doublethink, if one is also a devout Catholic.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:34 pm Joe Biden calls himself a pro-abortion, devout Catholic.

In other words, he's a doublethinker.

Abortion is made ethical by doublethink, if one is also a devout Catholic.

Another quote, from a different kind of Catholic:

"Abortion is the Antichrist's demonic parody of the Eucharist. That's why it uses the same holy words, "This is my body," with the blasphemously opposite meaning."

— philosopher/theologian Peter Kreeft

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Where does 'ethics' come into the equation? Abortion has nothing to do with either 'morality' or 'ethics'. Abortion is a medical and biological 'issue'. A foetus is ENTIRELY the responsibility of the person carrying it--biological FACT. That's not an equal partnership. The offspring is also ENTIRELY the responsibility of the mother, unless the father CHOOSES otherwise. So the male is the only one who gets to choose?
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If not letting half the human race make all the decisions for the future of our species/world makes me a mysogenist, then i guess only mysogenists are rational people. If that's the definitions you're playing with, it means you're essentially evil by definition.

It's extremely sexist and anti-diversity to eliminate half of humanity's lived experience from consideration in the future of all. You're basically being fascist right now.

Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:17 pm Abortion can Not be a one-woman decision because that would eliminate half the world's population from mapping it's future.

Those who wish to eliminate gender must invent an artificial womb straight away.

It only removes veto power for one particular decision.

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Abortion can Not be a one-woman decision because that would eliminate half the world's population from mapping it's future.

Those who wish to eliminate gender must invent an artificial womb straight away.
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It only removes veto power for one particular decision.
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Men don't want veto power, that's what abortion is. They want equal consideration, aka social justice. It's not just one particular decision, it's a central, existential one.

Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:55 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:40 pm

Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:17 pm Abortion can Not be a one-woman decision because that would eliminate half the world's population from mapping it's future.

Those who wish to eliminate gender must invent an artificial womb straight away.

It only removes veto power for one particular decision.

Men don't want veto power, that's what abortion is. They want equal consideration, aka social justice. It's not just one particular decision, it's a central, existential one.

in other words, men only lack veto power over a woman's decision to have or not have a baby.

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:57 pm in other words, men only lack veto power over a woman's decision to have or not have a baby.

What the hell does "veto power" look like if a woman decides to abort?

Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:17 pm Abortion can Not be a one-woman decision because that would eliminate half the world's population from mapping it's future.

Rubbish

Those who wish to eliminate gender must invent an artificial womb straight away.

Gibberish
I mean seriously WTF are you talking about.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:34 pm Joe Biden calls himself a pro-abortion, devout Catholic.

In other words, he's a doublethinker.

Abortion is made ethical by doublethink, if one is also a devout Catholic.

It just means he is smarter than his faith group
For anyone wanting to join the 21stC, pay heed that, even hyper Catholic Ireland has legalised abortion.
Get real.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:37 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:34 pm Joe Biden calls himself a pro-abortion, devout Catholic.

In other words, he's a doublethinker.

Abortion is made ethical by doublethink, if one is also a devout Catholic.

Another quote, from a different kind of Catholic:

"Abortion is the Antichrist's demonic parody of the Eucharist. That's why it uses the same holy words, "This is my body," with the blasphemously opposite meaning."

— philosopher/theologian Peter Kreeft

I know this will be a difficult decision for the Irish people to make. It is a very personal and private issue. For most of us, it’s not a black and white issue; it’s one that is grey. A balance between the rights of a pregnant woman and the foetus or unborn. It’s a matter for people to make their own decision based on the evidence they hear, compassion, and empathy. I want the debate to respectful on all sides, and should never be personalised.

However difficult, I believe the time has come to allow the people to make this decision. The question has to be a Yes or No one: do we reform our abortion laws or do we leave them as they are?

For my part, I will advocate for a Yes vote. My own views have evolved over time. Life experience does that.
The Taoiseach of Ireland

And THIS is what happens when you do not hae abortion...

BURYING UNWANTED BABIES.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... in-ireland

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/worl ... hools.html


The Christians church had its chance to show us how they could cope with a world in which abortion was illegal. A world where they would take on the responsibiltiy of unwanted children.
THEY FAILED
For you, my lad, its off to medical experiements!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:55 pm Men don't want veto power, that's what abortion is. They want equal consideration, aka social justice. It's not just one particular decision, it's a central, existential one.

So you want a rapist to have a say??

Unwanted pregnancies are often the result of rape, or sex with a complete lack of sex education due to the same moral morons that want to ban abortion.
It's hard enough for a woman to chose, but with the right contraception, right information and education there is less chance that unwanted pregnancies occur in the first place.
Sadly it is the moral morons that want to ban contraception too.

But just bacause a man manages to wank in a warm wet place does not give him any rights over a woman's body.
In the same way a man should not be able to force an abortion, and man could not be able to stop one occurring.