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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am What is being?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If all being is change then is this not an unchanging principle?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If this is an unchanging principle does this not necessitate 1 principle therefore 1 as unchanging as well?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If both the principle and 1 exist as unchanging this results in 2 unchanging phenomenon thus 2 as unchanging?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If the principle, 1 and 2 are unchanging does this not necessitate 3 as unchanging?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am Does this not result in a continuum of unchanging phenomena?

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am What is being?

Are you asking me or are you implying that you are going to answer this question, sometime?

You tell me.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If all being is change then is this not an unchanging principle?

I do not even YET KNOW what IS 'being' here, from your perspective.

If all 'what' is change?

To me, it seems a bit ludicrous to write your first sentence in question form about what some 'thing' is, but then immediately go onto your next sentence starting with and stating that "if ALL that 'thing', whatever 'it' is, is change, then ..."

I do not even know what 'being' IS to then wonder and consider IF ALL of that 'thing' is then some 'thing' else.

Observing what being is composed of does not point one away from what being is.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If this is an unchanging principle does this not necessitate 1 principle therefore 1 as unchanging as well?

I have absolutely NO idea NOR clue.

I am still wondering what 'being' IS, to you.

It is being, it is accepted as is.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If both the principle and 1 exist as unchanging this results in 2 unchanging phenomenon thus 2 as unchanging?

If you say so, then okay.

Either way this does NOT effect 'me' very much at all.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If the principle, 1 and 2 are unchanging does this not necessitate 3 as unchanging?

I do NOT know. I am still wondering IF you are going to answer YOUR first question here or if you are waiting for me to answer that question for you?

Go ahead, answer it.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am Does this not result in a continuum of unchanging phenomena?

I do NOT know, and I REALLY do NOT care either.

But what I ACTUALLY DO KNOW and have SHOWED IS that the Universe is in a state of 'constant-change'.

If you want to argue about some thing being 'unchanging', then the fact that the Universe IS in a state of 'constant-change' NOW, then this means that this 'state' could NOT possibly change, and so is therefore 'unchanging', itself.

Does this fit in with whatever 'it' is that you seem so desperate to get across and accepted?

We seem to agree some, yet the stillness of one thing necessitates the stillness of another given an unchanging principle necessitates an unchanging principle beyond it (such as 1 given 1 principle occurs).


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As I have asked you previously, and which I will ask you again, IF whatever you are 'trying to' argue for was agreed upon and accepted, then what would this mean for you and what would this actually change?

The same question can be asked of you. So what would happen?

What would actually occur if what you are saying was agreed upon and accepted as being True, Right, and Correct?

What would occur if what you said was agreed upon and accepted as being true?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am What is being?

Are you asking me or are you implying that you are going to answer this question, sometime?

You tell me.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am
What is being?

Are you asking me or are you implying that you are going to answer this question, sometime?

You tell me.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If all being is change then is this not an unchanging principle?

I do not even YET KNOW what IS 'being' here, from your perspective.

If all 'what' is change?

To me, it seems a bit ludicrous to write your first sentence in question form about what some 'thing' is, but then immediately go onto your next sentence starting with and stating that "if ALL that 'thing', whatever 'it' is, is change, then ..."

I do not even know what 'being' IS to then wonder and consider IF ALL of that 'thing' is then some 'thing' else.

Observing what being is composed of does not point one away from what being is.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If this is an unchanging principle does this not necessitate 1 principle therefore 1 as unchanging as well?

I have absolutely NO idea NOR clue.

I am still wondering what 'being' IS, to you.

It is being, it is accepted as is.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If both the principle and 1 exist as unchanging this results in 2 unchanging phenomenon thus 2 as unchanging?

If you say so, then okay.

Either way this does NOT effect 'me' very much at all.


If the principle, 1 and 2 are unchanging does this not necessitate 3 as unchanging?

I do NOT know. I am still wondering IF you are going to answer YOUR first question here or if you are waiting for me to answer that question for you?

Go ahead, answer it.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am Does this not result in a continuum of unchanging phenomena?

I do NOT know, and I REALLY do NOT care either.

But what I ACTUALLY DO KNOW and have SHOWED IS that the Universe is in a state of 'constant-change'.

If you want to argue about some thing being 'unchanging', then the fact that the Universe IS in a state of 'constant-change' NOW, then this means that this 'state' could NOT possibly change, and so is therefore 'unchanging', itself.

Does this fit in with whatever 'it' is that you seem so desperate to get across and accepted?

We seem to agree some,

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am yet the stillness of one thing necessitates the stillness of another given an unchanging principle necessitates an unchanging principle beyond it (such as 1 given 1 principle occurs).

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 amAs I have asked you previously, and which I will ask you again, IF whatever you are 'trying to' argue for was agreed upon and accepted, then what would this mean for you and what would this actually change?

The same question can be asked of you. So what would happen?

I would be one step CLOSER to achieving 'that' what I have set out to achieve.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 amWhat would actually occur if what you are saying was agreed upon and accepted as being True, Right, and Correct?

What would occur if what you said was agreed upon and accepted as being true?

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:52 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 am

Are you asking me or are you implying that you are going to answer this question, sometime?

You tell me.

But OBVIOUSLY YOU are the ONE who wrote it. So, I do NOT know what YOUR answer IS.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:01 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am
What is being?

Are you asking me or are you implying that you are going to answer this question, sometime?

You tell me.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If all being is change then is this not an unchanging principle?

I do not even YET KNOW what IS 'being' here, from your perspective.

If all 'what' is change?

To me, it seems a bit ludicrous to write your first sentence in question form about what some 'thing' is, but then immediately go onto your next sentence starting with and stating that "if ALL that 'thing', whatever 'it' is, is change, then ..."

I do not even know what 'being' IS to then wonder and consider IF ALL of that 'thing' is then some 'thing' else.

Observing what being is composed of does not point one away from what being is.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If this is an unchanging principle does this not necessitate 1 principle therefore 1 as unchanging as well?

I have absolutely NO idea NOR clue.

I am still wondering what 'being' IS, to you.

It is being, it is accepted as is.

So, to you, what is 'being' is being, AND, 'being' is accepted as is.

Therefore, I accept that what some of you say and believe is true is just pure nonsensical and illogical, from my perspective, AND, to me, this is accepted as is. So, this IS 'being', and 'being' is being and this 'being' is accepted as is, correct?

If this is NOT correct, then, EXACTLY, what IS?

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:06 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 am If both the principle and 1 exist as unchanging this results in 2 unchanging phenomenon thus 2 as unchanging?

If you say so, then okay.

Either way this does NOT effect 'me' very much at all.


If the principle, 1 and 2 are unchanging does this not necessitate 3 as unchanging?

I do NOT know. I am still wondering IF you are going to answer YOUR first question here or if you are waiting for me to answer that question for you?

Go ahead, answer it.

I ALREADY did. Did you REALLY MISS my answer?

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:20 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 am

I do NOT know, and I REALLY do NOT care either.

But what I ACTUALLY DO KNOW and have SHOWED IS that the Universe is in a state of 'constant-change'.

If you want to argue about some thing being 'unchanging', then the fact that the Universe IS in a state of 'constant-change' NOW, then this means that this 'state' could NOT possibly change, and so is therefore 'unchanging', itself.

Does this fit in with whatever 'it' is that you seem so desperate to get across and accepted?

We seem to agree some,

OBVIOUSLY, and OF COURSE. I thought this was ALREADY OBVIOUS, but now OBVIOUSLY NOT.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am yet the stillness of one thing necessitates the stillness of another given an unchanging principle necessitates an unchanging principle beyond it (such as 1 given 1 principle occurs).

BUT, unlike you, I do NOT see a 'stillness' ANYWHERE.

So, unlike you, I do NOT see a 'stillness' of one thing. But, if you do SEE a 'stillness' somewhere, then that is PERFECTLY FINE and OKAY with me.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 amAs I have asked you previously, and which I will ask you again, IF whatever you are 'trying to' argue for was agreed upon and accepted, then what would this mean for you and what would this actually change?

The same question can be asked of you. So what would happen?

I would be one step CLOSER to achieving 'that' what I have set out to achieve.

By the way, SEE how SIMPLE and EASY it REALLY is to just ANSWER the questions posed to you. You should try it sometime, then we can SEE what follows on from that.

Furthermore, ABSOLUTELY ANY question that is posed to you you can turn around and reply by saying; "The same question can be asked of you".

But, besides the OBVIOUS DETRACTING tactic by doing this you are only REALLY SHOWING your OWN inabilities and FEARS.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 amWhat would actually occur if what you are saying was agreed upon and accepted as being True, Right, and Correct?

What would occur if what you said was agreed upon and accepted as being true?

Then we ALL would get to AND reach what 'it' IS that I have set out to achieve.

Now, will you ANSWER these CLARIFYING QUESTIONS that 'I' have posed to 'you'?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:31 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:52 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:00 am

You tell me.

But OBVIOUSLY YOU are the ONE who wrote it. So, I do NOT know what YOUR answer IS.

My answer is a question. Deal with it.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:40 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:31 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:52 am

But OBVIOUSLY YOU are the ONE who wrote it. So, I do NOT know what YOUR answer IS.

My answer is a question. Deal with it.

As I just wrote in another thread to you. It does NOT matter if I write one or a hundred questions to you in a post, your continual refusal to and DETRACTION from answer them remains the same.

As EVIDENCED and PROVEN, ONCE AGAIN