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...who see BEYOND Trump.

see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

utopia

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

And you think that's intelligent?

Oh well, it will be fun to see what happens when 'the one with more advanced dementia' tries to lock down the country (since y'all seem to think that covid is Trump's fault).

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:03 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

And you think that's intelligent?

ain't that 'merica?

-Imp

I hope that the bureau of social justice brings utopia to every non tribal citizen

-Imp

...ultimately doesn't mean a helluva lot

as I say elsewhere: repubs retain the majority in the senate, dems have a smaller majority in the house, the supreme court is dominated by conservatives, a fairly large number of conservative federal judges were appointed and confirmed in the past four years; on the state level, repubs made significant gains in legislatures; on the local level, repubs made significant gains in municipal government

what the dems won for themselves is gridlock: there will be no significant legislation passed over the next four years...no green new deal, no gun control, no higher taxes, no economy- crushin' climate change regs

as I say: I prefer if ORANGE MAN gets his *second term and keeps wreckin' commie dreams, but I can live with gridlock









*and, just cuz a news outlet declares the houseplant is the winner, don't make it so...we got nearly 3 months to go before inauguration...the fat chick ain't wailed yet

and, as I say elsewhere...

whether or not there was or is any real monkeyshines with the election, a whole whack of voters believe there was and is...these folks aren't goin' anywhere

ORANGE MAN may indeed be ousted (legitimately or through monkeyshines) but he isn't goin' anywhere either and he'll keep the notion monkeyshines happened alive and well

becuz of that belief: we'll see the repubs and others will continue to erode away at the dem house majority, we'll see the strengthenin' of the repub senate majority, we'll see repubs take more state legislatures, more governorships; municipalities will shift similarly

it's like I said: the dems have burned their own house down tryin' to get at the ORANGE monster in the closet

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:03 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

And you think that's intelligent?

Imp's another of the fools, LW!

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:05 pm Oh well, it will be fun to see what happens when 'the one with more advanced dementia' tries to lock down the country (since y'all seem to think that covid is Trump's fault).

Far too simple a lie to even bother!

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:03 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

And you think that's intelligent?

ain't that 'merica?

-Imp

Nope, only the roughly half that voted for trump!

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:56 pm ...who see BEYOND Trump.

yep. i see beyond Rump ( 2 kings - refer to my link -when we have 2 kings, who will be anointed? - time for the pleabs to rise up and use pressure for peaceful tranfurance of power..........maybe (yes)

per the Rule of Law, 2 montrh from now, knowing Rump's "character", it will be up to Barr..............

;-(, sadly.

and if Barr does not step up then The People, do they sleep or step up and demand rump be removed on jan 20?


we shall see.

Far more disturbing than Donald Trump’s bizarrely over-stoked fan base (for me) are the strong supporters who consider themselves to be Christian.

The Biblical Jesus was unquestionably the opposite of the president’s character; he was all about compassion, pacifism and absolute charity. He clearly would not tolerate such superfluous wealth as the hoarding of tens of billions of dollars while so many others went hungry and homeless.

While many true Christians have rejected Trump’s presidency, regardless of his tempting conservative politics (e.g. his Pro-life professions), this very vocal and politically active ‘Christian’ element lauds Trump.

Apparently, so very angered by Democratic Party social liberalism, they promote, even praise, the figurative devil.

(I know I’d dread the possibly of being looked upon by Trump’s big money corporate drivers as a useful idiot, especially if I was a supporter who's struggling to make financial ends meet.)

Their apparent blindness to Trump being contrary to Christ’s teachings makes it seem to me they’ve sacrificed Jesus’s fundamentals on the altar of unyielding hard-conservative politics.

“Jesus Is My Savior, Trump Is My President”, Trump’s fanatic followers are chanting across America.

(Does Jonestown and the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project eerily come to mind, anyone?)

Perhaps worst of all, they make very bad examples of the faith, especially to young impressionable observers.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm see you in the courts

and the senate will not allow anything to pass

utopia

-Imp

Senate is irrelivant per the rule of law.

you not american, if you are, you would know that the senate is irrelivant, and only the house would be - only if a 268/268 (in that case the Federal House rules via the top 3 states - per their elector college values (so that means CA, NY, and??????? FL? rules - so Biden wins by refault), and since its not that only relivence is the State House of PA (or other State houses) per your arguement.

and since the pop vote is via Bidon, the only way Chump can win is by buying out PA (and/or other State EC votes - since the EC is not mandated to refect the popular will.................so ya Chump can in theory brib those state reps - who will conveine in december - to side against the pop vote,and so win the election.

is this what you wish for?

fully legal under my Constitution, though i would not welcome. being against the popular will.

So clarifiy, do you wish for the popular will to be ignored if the State Legislatures affirm rump as president in spite of said will?

-------it would be fully legal, and though legal, i would not like, you would? why so?

clarify why support ignoring popular vote/wish?........

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:30 pm ...ultimately doesn't mean a helluva lot

as I say elsewhere: repubs retain the majority in the senate, dems have a smaller majority in the house, the supreme court is dominated by conservatives, a fairly large number of conservative federal judges were appointed and confirmed in the past four years; on the state level, repubs made significant gains in legislatures; on the local level, repubs made significant gains in municipal government

what the dems won for themselves is gridlock: there will be no significant legislation passed over the next four years...no green new deal, no gun control, no higher taxes, no economy- crushin' climate change regs

all your say is Truth and so,

i ask you as one man to another, what if the PA state house is bribbed to make "faithless electorates" (rump pays off those electorates to ignore thier reps - the voters (so ignore they sided with Bidon 51 percent, and so instead mark the check box with Rump (i.e. you ok with this?- i affirm them doing so is legal, and we have 2 more month's and knowing rump's character i know he will do all he can to make this so - my question to you Sir is are you willing to burn the house down - legal per law of the land - though will ruin America, or do side with me on this?)


honestly asking, and hope your reply affirms my prior view of your character,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to date i think i may 60/40, but fully sure.

welcome your views Sir.