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Ever since the emergence of Islam, Muslims have been claiming Islam is the ONLY true religion. This claim has been leveraged on the claim that the present Quran that all Muslims has in their possession and are relying upon is exactly the SAME perfect copy from Allah as revealed to Muhammad and transcribed verbatim without errors to the present.

The latest trend of a bombshell to Islam is the expose that Islam is not a genuine [thus a bullsh;t] religion for the Quran is not perfect as the Quran claimed for itself.
Note this trending topic:

• There are holes in the narrative of the Quran.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V73m8RPIIg

• 11 Differences on ONE PAGE of a Quran Manuscript!
  More Holes in the Narrative]
  Muslim apologists assure us that the Quran has been perfectly preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Muhammad. What happens when we look at a page of an ancient Quran manuscript and find 11 textual variants on a single page?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBgWbNfQF4

• QUR'AN: Its Manuscripts are worse than its Qira'ats!
  Jay's final Conclusion? From what we have researched, and found, we can say that:
  •The Qur’an was not created by God at all
  •The Qur’an was not sent down to Muhammad between 610 – 632 AD
  •The Qur’an was not completed by Uthman in 652 AD
  •The Qur’an was changed in the last 1300 years (note that I'm specifically using 1300)
  •The Qur’an was finally compiled in 1924, and made official in 1985
  •Thus, the Qur’an is a mere 96…no wait…35 years old!
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS3pCDksDkM

There is somewhere a proviso that Allah permitted something like 7 readings of the Quran but the message remained unchanged.

Now it is discovered that are more than 40-45 different [Qirat] Quran [in Arabic] around the world and there are more than 30,000++ differences [major and minor] between them. These evidences smash the claims there is only one true perfect verbatim Quran from Allah.

The above proved the Quran and Islam is man-made [never from a God].

Worst of all, the compilation of Quran was contaminated and corrupted by self-interested men who were evil prone and thus imbuing elements of evil into the Quran.
Why TROP is a Threat to Humanity

The above is addressed in particular to Averroes to respond and defend the above accusation the present Quran is man-made.

Views from others?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am Ever since the emergence of Islam, Muslims have been claiming Islam is the ONLY true religion.

Is this NOT the case with ALL religions?

That is; the followers/believers of 'that' religion claim that that religion is the ONLY true religion? Or, do some believers/followers of A religion claim that 'that' religion is NOT the ONLY true religion?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am This claim has been leveraged on the claim that the present Quran that all Muslims has in their possession and are relying upon is exactly the SAME perfect copy from Allah as revealed to Muhammad and transcribed verbatim without errors to the present.

What language did you first learn before english?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am The latest trend of a bombshell to Islam is the expose that Islam is not a genuine [thus a bullsh;t] religion for the Quran is not perfect as the Quran claimed for itself.

But the religion, itself, may be genuine, and it is just EVERY interpretation of the religion is wrong, or just not genuine. For example, do you have the RIGHT and GENUINE interpretation of the religion "islam"?

If yes, then HOW did you obtain this, especially considering that it is you who INSISTS that the ones called "muslims", which are the True followers of that religion, do not have the right and genuine interpretation?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am Note this trending topic:

• There are holes in the narrative of the Quran.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V73m8RPIIg

• 11 Differences on ONE PAGE of a Quran Manuscript!
  More Holes in the Narrative]
  Muslim apologists assure us that the Quran has been perfectly preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Muhammad.

If ANY believes or even accepts this, then they have not experienced nor played the children's game "chinese whispers" or "telephone", and learned from it.

It is EXTREMELY RARE for just one human being to preserve the actual message, and intended meaning, letter for letter from "another". This RARITY is SO RARE in the written word, as EVIDENCED in this forum, let alone in the spoken word.

By the way, I wonder how many people have noticed the CONTRADICTION in your writings. That is; you INSIST that YOUR OWN INTERPRETATIONS of the, so called, "genuine" and "true" intention and meaning behind the religion 'islam' is True, Right, and Correct, but "other's" INTERPRETATIONS, which just 'coincidentally' is the opposite of yours, is FALSE, WRONG, and INCORRECT.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am What happens when we look at a page of an ancient Quran manuscript and find 11 textual variants on a single page?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBgWbNfQF4[/list]

• QUR'AN: Its Manuscripts are worse than its Qira'ats!
  Jay's final Conclusion? From what we have researched, and found, we can say that:
  •The Qur’an was not created by God at all
  •The Qur’an was not sent down to Muhammad between 610 – 632 AD
  •The Qur’an was not completed by Uthman in 652 AD
  •The Qur’an was changed in the last 1300 years (note that I'm specifically using 1300)
  •The Qur’an was finally compiled in 1924, and made official in 1985
  •Thus, the Qur’an is a mere 96…no wait…35 years old!
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS3pCDksDkM

There is somewhere a proviso that Allah permitted something like 7 readings of the Quran but the message remained unchanged.

Now it is discovered that are more than 40-45 different [Qirat] Quran [in Arabic] around the world and there are more than 30,000++ differences [major and minor] between them. These evidences smash the claims there is only one true perfect verbatim Quran from Allah.

The above proved the Quran and Islam is man-made [never from a God].

So, because human beings misinterpret, misunderstand, forget, and/or change the words, which were originally expressed, then that, to you, PROVES that words NEVER come from God, correct?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am Worst of all, the compilation of Quran was contaminated and corrupted by self-interested men who were evil prone and thus imbuing elements of evil into the Quran.
Why TROP is a Threat to Humanity

The above is addressed in particular to Averroes to respond and defend the above accusation the present Quran is man-made.

Views from others?

Your life, to me, seems to be consumed by a hatred for islam/peace, and for those followers of islam/peace.