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Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm
by Lacewing
Considering Trump's ignorance and denial throughout the Covid-19 crisis, only mindless people who have allegiance to a superficial political party identity rather than to SANITY and intelligence would vote for Trump AGAIN.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm
by Impenitent
not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves

-Imp

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:26 pm
by Lacewing
Impenitent wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves
If that's the case, then we're all GOING DOWN... and the mindless people who bring such about will be so proud of their sense of "power", even if it's only the capability to destroy everything from their ignorance.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:45 pm
by Spyrith
Lacewing wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:26 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves
If that's the case, then we're all GOING DOWN... and the mindless people who bring such about will be so proud of their sense of "power", even if it's only the capability to destroy everything from their ignorance.
I'm not American, and don't like Trump. But still, if the guy wins reelection he'll do it because people vote for him. Is it even legitimate to say that 60+ million people are wrong, just because you're in the other camp that doesn't vote for Trump?

Again, I'm not defending him. If I were American I'd vote against him. But I'm asking this based on principle.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:50 pm
by Lacewing
Spyrith wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:45 pm I'm not American, and don't like Trump. But still, if the guy wins reelection he'll do it because people vote for him. Is it even legitimate to say that 60+ million people are wrong, just because you're in the other camp that doesn't vote for Trump?

Again, I'm not defending him. If I were American I'd vote against him. But I'm asking this based on principle.
I understand your question. Does quantity of people indicate intelligence?

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:02 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Lacewing wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm Considering Trump's ignorance and denial throughout the Covid-19 crisis, only mindless people who have allegiance to a superficial political party identity rather than to SANITY and intelligence would vote for Trump AGAIN.
Yes, everywhere else blind politics have been replaced with logic and reason. So-called 'neo-liberalism' has been shown up as the irrational, unworkable load of shallow shite that it is. I just hope the shallow shites who vote that way will twig in time for the next election.
It was neo-liberal bullshit that helped spread this virus--with its greed and open door immigration to the countries with the money and desire to buy up much of the planet.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:46 pm
by commonsense
Impenitent wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves

-Imp
Indeed, Trump will win again and Imp’s other predictions will devolve from there.

Anyone who is a zealous Republican should vote for Trump because one thing you get from Trump is policies that are desirable from a Republican perspective.

You should vote for Republican candidates if you favor a weak Federal government with strong State’s rights; strongly secured national boarders; private sector efforts rather than tax supported government programs; strong anti-abortion laws; the death penalty; gun ownership; or tax breaks that protect individuals from having to give up their accumulated wealth.

Also, anyone who idolizes Trump as a hero, which includes his base of apparent fools, will likely vote for Trump and probably the down ticket Republican candidates as well.

Furthermore, those who voted for Trump in 2016 will likely vote for him again as well as for his Republican cronies.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:25 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
commonsense wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:46 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves

-Imp
Indeed, Trump will win again and Imp’s other predictions will devolve from there.

Anyone who is a zealous Republican should vote for Trump because one thing you get from Trump is policies that are desirable from a Republican perspective.

You should vote for Republican candidates if you favor a weak Federal government with strong State’s rights; strongly secured national boarders; private sector efforts rather than tax supported government programs; strong anti-abortion laws; the death penalty; gun ownership; or tax breaks that protect individuals from having to give up their accumulated wealth.

Also, anyone who idolizes Trump as a hero, which includes his base of apparent fools, will likely vote for Trump and probably the down ticket Republican candidates as well.

Furthermore, those who voted for Trump in 2016 will likely vote for him again as well as for his Republican cronies.
Abortion is still legal in every US state and the death penalty has kept on through both Republican and Democrat govts. ditto gun owndership, ditto strict immigration laws.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:32 am
by Impenitent
commonsense wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:46 pm ... tax breaks that protect individuals from having to give up their accumulated wealth.

envy is a BEAUTIFUL emotion

why do anything? have some one from the benevolent government STEAL for YOU...

-Imp

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:11 am
by Arising_uk
Ah! The old American myth about how anyone can be 'rich' if they just try hard enough. May well have been the case once but that drawbridge has well and truly been drawn up and bolted for decades for the blue-collar joe and his kids. The Trumpette is a perfect example of the riches to mega riches America is now and the devil can fuck the rest. Oh! The irony that the working man thinks he is on their side. I wonder how much his and his brood are gonna make from his time as Prez? :lol:

We'll be millionaires one day Rodders. :lol:

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:14 am
by commonsense
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:25 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:46 pm
Impenitent wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:15 pm not only will Trump win reelection, and the senate remain Republican, (watch the judges) but the house will flip to Republican as well as an increase in the number of Republican governors...

utopia is screaming for her slaves

-Imp
Indeed, Trump will win again and Imp’s other predictions will devolve from there.

Anyone who is a zealous Republican should vote for Trump because one thing you get from Trump is policies that are desirable from a Republican perspective.

You should vote for Republican candidates if you favor a weak Federal government with strong State’s rights; strongly secured national boarders; private sector efforts rather than tax supported government programs; strong anti-abortion laws; the death penalty; gun ownership; or tax breaks that protect individuals from having to give up their accumulated wealth.

Also, anyone who idolizes Trump as a hero, which includes his base of apparent fools, will likely vote for Trump and probably the down ticket Republican candidates as well.

Furthermore, those who voted for Trump in 2016 will likely vote for him again as well as for his Republican cronies.
Abortion is still legal in every US state and the death penalty has kept on through both Republican and Democrat govts. ditto gun owndership, ditto strict immigration laws.
Seems neither side has had the upper hand on every issue.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:24 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Lacewing wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm Considering Trump's ignorance and denial throughout the Covid-19 crisis, only mindless people who have allegiance to a superficial political party identity rather than to SANITY and intelligence would vote for Trump AGAIN.
Trump having so much experiences as a CEO of a large organization would have understood the need for a team or teams of advisers to advise him on things he is not an expert in. I believe Trump would also have a team of advisers in the White House.
Trump would have received various views [at times conflicting] and whatever statements he put out earlier regarding Covid-19 could NOT have been his own personal views.

To direct blame and condemn Trump as ignorant only exposed your own ignorance of modern management practices and governance.

What is critical is Trump -based on expert advisers - have been able to change their views and act accordingly to optimize the situation. From evidences I believe Trump's team has done that and Trump was merely the spokesman for the team.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:06 am
by Sculptor
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:24 am
Lacewing wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm Considering Trump's ignorance and denial throughout the Covid-19 crisis, only mindless people who have allegiance to a superficial political party identity rather than to SANITY and intelligence would vote for Trump AGAIN.
Trump having so much experiences as a CEO of a large organization would have understood the need for a team or teams of advisers to advise him on things he is not an expert in. I believe Trump would also have a team of advisers in the White House.
Well you can be forgiven for thinking so.
But how do you explain, Kayleigh McEnany ?
Trump's presidency is characterised by him sacking anyone that disagrees with him.
Trump would have received various views [at times conflicting] and whatever statements he put out earlier regarding Covid-19 could NOT have been his own personal views.

To direct blame and condemn Trump as ignorant only exposed your own ignorance of modern management practices and governance.

What is critical is Trump -based on expert advisers - have been able to change their views and act accordingly to optimize the situation. From evidences I believe Trump's team has done that and Trump was merely the spokesman for the team.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:21 am
by Dubious
If Trump gets reelected one might as well burn The Constitution as worthless. Not least, much of the Western world will consider the U.S. a lost cause no-longer to be depended on for anything which should please the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping. The devolution of America from being first in power and influence to being first in self-interest only will cause stagnation beyond any respect it already lost and continues to lose. It's a victory for Russia and China that even without a war the political infrastructures and alliances of the West are in the process of dismemberment.

Re: Trump's failed leadership

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:52 pm
by Belinda
Maybe moral degeneration and environmental degradation are causally linked by a law of nature. That law of nature is maybe 'nature can't allow plagues to persist'.