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When bad stuff happens, ultimately Nothing ever happened,this is the ultimate truth.

What a sweet relief. All is good.

This not happening happening is God being this real, true Miracle worker.

God being just another word for beingness, or consciousness or whatever name happens (pops into) mind aka (nothing)

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

The unmoved mover. Aka God...aka YOU

When bad horrible things happen, when pain and suffering strikes, it feels like hell, it feels like an evil.

But with healing there is sweet relief and all is good and comfortable again. Healing is a wonderful thing actually, the body knows how to heal itself, this is good, else life would be totally unbearable. But God does not want an unbearable life.

God saw to it that all bad returns to the good. Death is the ultimate good, whether you die physically, or you die non-physically and still live.

Even if one is dying in agony, eventually that pain will turn to sweet relief when it disappears without a trace forever. God make this possible, and is why nothing is as bad as what it seems. Good is prefered over bad any time, so goodness will always win the battle of good verses evil. And that is good news.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 am When bad stuff happens, ultimately Nothing ever happened,this is the ultimate truth.

What a sweet relief. All is good.

This not happening happening is God being this real, true Miracle worker.

God being just another word for beingness, or consciousness or whatever name happens (pops into) mind aka (nothing)

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

The unmoved mover. Aka God...aka YOU

You show good without evil.

We live in a dualistic world. Right?

Good has to have some evil in it, just like you have in you. We all have a Yin to go with our Yang.

Regards
DL

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:03 am When bad horrible things happen, when pain and suffering strikes, it feels like hell, it feels like an evil.

But with healing there is sweet relief and all is good and comfortable again. Healing is a wonderful thing actually, the body knows how to heal itself, this is good, else life would be totally unbearable. But God does not want an unbearable life.

God saw to it that all bad returns to the good. Death is the ultimate good, whether you die physically, or you die non-physically and still live.

Even if one is dying in agony, eventually that pain will turn to sweet relief when it disappears without a trace forever. God make this possible, and is why nothing is as bad as what it seems. Good is prefered over bad any time, so goodness will always win the battle of good verses evil. And that is good news.

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Are you trying to say that we'd never know what GOOD is, unless we had the suffering?
SO god makes the suffering so that we can enjoy the good?
I think you are mistaken.
All life ends in death, the waste of a lifetime of experience. The loss of everything. And without modern medicine this hopeless end is most usually very painful to the dying and to all their mourners.
This is not evidence of a GOOD god, but it is evidence of an EVIL god.
The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering. Good only exists to let us know what suffering is and that death exists as a final kick in the bollucks.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 am The Reason Why God is Good.

You are completely clueless ...because?!?!
Read book of Revelation and see all the vials of wrath that his angels pour out on the world and the trumpets that devastate us!

HexHammer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:28 am You are completely clueless ...because?!?!
Read book of Revelation and see all the vials of wrath that his angels pour out on the world and the trumpets that devastate us!

The counterargument to this is usually along the lines of "God throws hardships in our way as a test of character".

The only problem with this is that God knows everything that has happened and ever will happen, so he already knows how humans will react to a hardships down to the smallest detail and thought they have.

He only does this because God's bored.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:07 pm All life ends in death, the waste of a lifetime of experience. The loss of everything. And without modern medicine this hopeless end is most usually very painful to the dying and to all their mourners.
This is not evidence of a GOOD god, but it is evidence of an EVIL god.

If life is hopeless suffering, then why procreate at all? If you know that life is suffering ending in painful death, then why would any knower of this knowledge then want to impose that hopelessness, suffering and painful death on another person by creating more children that will also suffer this same knowledge?

Why do you think there is still a desire to bring children into a suffering world? why does that happen?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:07 pmThe evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering. Good only exists to let us know what suffering is and that death exists as a final kick in the bollucks.

If you know you die, then why would anyone want to inflict that kick in the balls to another human being in the procreation process?

Don't forget, conceptual knowledge can only be understood in relation to a concepts opposite.
The Buddha is quoted as saying...What is wrong with right now unless you THINK about it?
..thinking = concepts known = knowledge.

But where is your knowledge and thinking about suffering in deep dreamless sleep? Do you not feel the bliss of your sleep upon waking from that sleep becoming aware of knowing that you still existed in a state when all your THOUGHT was absent, and how blissful you were during the absence of your THOUGHTS?

Your real true nature is prior to thought. That's what God is, God is the blissful nondual state prior to thought which is dualist aka the play of the knowledge of opposites.

Do you ever ponder the idea that animals are maybe just luckier than humans in that they do not THINK to themselves I am going to die. They have no cocept of death because they do not say they are alive. They attempt to avoid death by displaying the overriding will to survive at all cost. If animals knew they were going to die then why do animals put on this instinctive will and drive to survive. They even have the intrinsic knowing to play dead as a way of asssurance in the will to survive... animals have the intrinsic fear of death when it arises, but only in the immediate moment of danger. . prior to which they live in bliss..There is no thought of death until that immediate threat is presently arising in them, which they then reject, they don't just willy nilly give in to death at the drop of a hat. Nor do amimals commit suicide, because they have no concept that there is a SELF there to kill.

God is the same one consciousness in every creature. There is only consciousness. The entire conscious universe was built and created without using any thinking agent known as a brain, else what thinking brain created the brain? ....God is not what thought thinks it is.

There is so much to explain about what is God, I could go on forever and ever about it...but this little snippet will do for now.

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Spyrith wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:56 amThe counterargument to this is usually along the lines of "God throws hardships in our way as a test of character".

The only problem with this is that God knows everything that has happened and ever will happen, so he already knows how humans will react to a hardships down to the smallest detail and thought they have.

He only does this because God's bored.

Nah, he loves to punish everybody, just look at how the jews were his favored people, but didn't hole back in punishing them all the time!
When the Sistine Chapel was finished Rome got invaded and looted.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 am When bad stuff happens, ultimately Nothing ever happened,this is the ultimate truth.

What a sweet relief. All is good.

This not happening happening is God being this real, true Miracle worker.

God being just another word for beingness, or consciousness or whatever name happens (pops into) mind aka (nothing)

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

The unmoved mover. Aka God...aka YOU

Had you been drinking when you started this thread? Your first two posts sound more "off" than you usually do.

I do not understand the mentality of repeatedly using this forum for manic episodes by people on medication/drugs or (perhaps) who should be. Is there no self-awareness or moderation or self-mastery that kicks in to prevent random blabbing the moment a passing thought arises in the brain? This forum can have more value than as some kind of late-night "Dear Diary" for the mentally imbalanced.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:50 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 am When bad stuff happens, ultimately Nothing ever happened,this is the ultimate truth.

What a sweet relief. All is good.

This not happening happening is God being this real, true Miracle worker.

God being just another word for beingness, or consciousness or whatever name happens (pops into) mind aka (nothing)

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

The unmoved mover. Aka God...aka YOU

Had you been drinking when you started this thread? Your first two posts sound more "off" than you usually do.

I do not understand the mentality of repeatedly using this forum for manic episodes by people on medication/drugs or (perhaps) who should be. Is there no self-awareness or moderation or self-mastery that kicks in to prevent random blabbing the moment a passing thought arises in the brain? This forum can have more value than as some kind of late-night "Dear Diary" for the mentally imbalanced.

Look at it as brainstorming and use it to advantage instead of bitching all the time. Jeeze.

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:01 pm Look at it as brainstorming and use it to advantage instead of bitching all the time. Jeeze.

You're the one who is bitching.

I made a valid point. Why don't you look at the value of it?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:04 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:01 pm Look at it as brainstorming and use it to advantage instead of bitching all the time. Jeeze.

You're the one who is bitching.

I made a valid point. Why don't you look at the value of it?

Same old point ... whatever is ain't right.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:50 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 am When bad stuff happens, ultimately Nothing ever happened,this is the ultimate truth.

What a sweet relief. All is good.

This not happening happening is God being this real, true Miracle worker.

God being just another word for beingness, or consciousness or whatever name happens (pops into) mind aka (nothing)

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

The unmoved mover. Aka God...aka YOU

Had you been drinking when you started this thread? Your first two posts sound more "off" than you usually do.

I do not understand the mentality of repeatedly using this forum for manic episodes by people on medication/drugs or (perhaps) who should be. Is there no self-awareness or moderation or self-mastery that kicks in to prevent random blabbing the moment a passing thought arises in the brain? This forum can have more value than as some kind of late-night "Dear Diary" for the mentally imbalanced.

I’m sane, healthy and well balanced..I am not on any medication for anything health wise. I have never smoked, and do not drink alcohol...so your wrong to assume, or just think I do.

I couldn’t care less if my posts make no sense to other readers, I’m just here to pass time and express myself the way I personally see reality from my world view.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:37 pm I’m sane, healthy and well balanced..I am not on any medication for anything health wise. I have never smoked, and do not drink alcohol...so your wrong to assume, or just think I do.

Well, something seemed way off from your usual -- but I guess you don't see that.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:37 pm I couldn’t care less if my posts make no sense to other readers, I’m just here to pass time and express myself the way I personally see reality from my world view.

That's kind of selfish. Don't you respect the time that people put into trying to understand and communicate with you? Couldn't you just yell into a tin can if all you want is to pass time and express yourself?

I actually get a lot of flack for expressing my nondual views...it’s understandable because nonduality is very difficult to understand..not many people get it, only rarely do people get it.

I’m used to being bashed, but it doesn’t bother me too much, although sometimes my ego lashes out in that I respond by bashing back ...it’s sad that people have to be so nasty to each other, me included..but that’s the nature of ego I suppose.