Page 1 of 1

Covid19 - A Case for Objective Moral Standard

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:29 am
by Veritas Aequitas
From the empirical evidences of what IS going on in relation to the threat of Covid19 at present, it is very obvious the critical ought can be rationally theorized for humanity would be;
  • 1. No human ought to die from Covid19

    2. No human ought to spread the Covid 19 virus to other human beings
The justification for the above in a theoretical basis is, if the above are not complied by all individuals as universalized, the human species will be extinct by the pandemic.

As such, logically, it would be morally wrong to accept the opposite, i.e.
  • ALL humans ought to die from Covid19

    ALL humans ought to spread the Covid 19 virus to other human beings
Therefore it is possible that objective oughts can be derived from empirical "is" logically.

As I had proposed moral oughts are merely to be taken as GUIDES only and never to be enforced on the basis of morality.

As we have observed and read of, individuals are imbued naturally and spontaneously with the moral ideal GUIDES and are spontaneousl and voluntarily taking actions all over the world to strive to the ideals as near as possible.
This is morality and ethics in real action at the present.

Because the inherent moral and ethical framework is not established systematically and efficiently in this case with the sudden COVID19 emergence, it has to rely on help from politics with legislature enforcement in various situations.

My points:
  • 1. The criticalness of the COVID19 threat of pandemic has shown how a framework and system of morality can work with secular absolute moral oughts as a GUIDE.

    2. From the above emergency COVID19 case, knowledge and lessons can be obtained that an efficient framework and system of morality and ethics can be implemented for the overall morality and ethics of humanity with secular objective moral ideals as GUIDEs.

    3. From the above, I have demonstrated [again] how 'ought' [as guides] is possible from empirical "is" and put into effective use as counter to Hume's Guilotine.
Views?

Re: Covid19 - A Case for Objective Moral Standard

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:19 am
by nothing
I couldn't have imagined a more applicable situation that demonstrates
one can/must get an 'ought not' from an 'is'.

Human beings are suffering/dying from Covid19 (is),
human beings ought not suffer/die from Covid19,
human beings ought not spread Covid19
such to potentially suffer/die to it.

The problem is irrational "believers" who irrationally fear a god,
thus irrationally "believe" their god is to be feared more than Covid19,
thus despite public health warnings, their irrationally continuing to gather
is causing potential for spreading, thus causing potential for more people to die.

The deeper problem is who is behind the attack / fear campaign, and
whether their motive was/is religiously (ie. irrationally) inspired
given the desire to kill all "unbelievers" who do not "believe"
in an "us vs. them" warring god. This ends in 2020 after the public
is informed of the entire "plot" to conquer/enslave humanity
as miserable as it was executed, it ultimately resulted in the opposite
of what was intended (to tear down the West with their own hands).
In the end, those involved will be responsible for tearing down
their own "miserable" House, falsity by falsity by falsity, leading to
the human trafficking networks and treatment/killing of "unbelievers".

All irrational fear begets irrational behavior,
thus by resolving irrational fear,
irrational behavior resolves as corollary.

Those responsible will not be getting away with it:
the source is already known, thus irrational fear
becomes rational fear, thus expect efforts to silence/suppress at all costs,
however such attempts will reveal who the real "Nazis" are:
a certain collective group of religious "believers" who religiously blame others
for their own deeds, having nothing but enmity and desire to kill, kill and kill.

The beautiful thing about truth: once you have it, it is only a matter of time
until the ones who continue to deny it face the burden of their own cross
and 2020 will be the year the "believers" collectively take up their own.

Re: Covid19 - A Case for Objective Moral Standard

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:13 am
by Age
Should humans ought to die from the flu?

Should humans ought to spread the flu virus to other human beings?


Have you isolated yourself fully every time you have had the flu virus?


And, what things ought humans die from?

Re: Covid19 - A Case for Objective Moral Standard

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:41 pm
by Impenitent
very heavy iron anvils labeled with the word "ought" dropped from 10 story buildings...

they ought to fly anyway...

-Imp

Re: Covid19 - A Case for Objective Moral Standard

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:37 pm
by Dontaskme
The cure for a punishing imagination is to give it no mind.