Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:25 pm
nothing wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:55 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:39 am
No it doesn't.
Belief is inevitable (?) considering there will always be something undefined...
(!)
Belief itself is
not the same as
belief-based ignorance.
It is possible to believe someone/something without knowing the same to be true
with it later turning out to be actually
true, however it is
not knowledge
until it is
acknowledged as
no longer containing degrees of uncertainty.
Belief implies presence of one or more
degrees of uncertainty.
Knowledge implies the absence of the same.
In thus knowing all: not to believe one indefinitely approaches all-knowing (theist/atheist-invariant).
The potential for the same lies in the conscience of the being
as a reflection of the quality of their own way of inquiry
such to distinguish truth from untruth. This instead of
good and evil, the latter requiring "belief" thus all eaters of the tree
of the knowledge of good and evil are "believers" such
to bring suffering and death into the world.
No, all of being exists through a relative formless unactualized state at one time or another, thus requiring belief for actualization.
It's the other way around: actual begets potential.
The constituency of the potential is based on the consciousness of the being.
Answers are static, whereas
questions are dynamic, thus
potential and inquiry are related.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:39 am
For example, a young athlete is starting a new physical fitness program. He believes if he does x,y,z exercise it will make him a better athlete. He lacks the actualization of being of a superior athlete.
Know him the desired results certainly won't come unless he first
tries?
The same is true with belief:
TRUTH-by-WAY-of-NEGATION
... truth by way of living ...
o. to: ...ad infinitum... consciously acknowledge all BELIEF(s)
i. to
TRY both: +to and -not (+alpha and -omega) to BELIEVE
ii. to
TEST both: +true and/or -not (necessarily)
iii. to
FALSIFY all BELIEF(s) NOT (necessarily) TRUE
...ad infinitum ...
Knowing all: not to believe
approaches all-knowing theist/atheist
-invariant.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:39 am
This belief, one where committing to a program will actualize superior athletic potential, is based upon the seeing of others follow the same work out routine and getting better results.
The same applies for religion, for many it turns life into a better state, thus other people replicate what they see in others.
All belief is the movement towards a state which is yet unactualized. It is the movement of an actual to a potential with the potential being actualized into a state of form derived from formlessness.
You have it upside-down: all belief is static, knowledge is dynamic.
Answers are static: they are fixed.
Questions are dynamic, they cause movement.
You ask a question. You subject it to alpha/omega
generate a movement to/from truth (accordingly)
such to posit new questions, thus new movement.
Those who ask
not questions, but merely believe to have all the answers
(such as:
as contained in a single book as "revealed" by a single all-knowing god)
are the ones who are both suffering and stagnant: they have no conscious knowledge
of their own belief-based ignorance causing the same, thus turn to blame and abuse.