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The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

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-Imp

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

It's debatable whether "conventional" thinking, or higher level intuition, as documented by authors such as physicist Fritjof Capra is actually the 'highest' documented form of cognitive activity.

Economic "competitiveness" in a greedy, rapacious sense, akin to a starving beast rather than a well fed or fitter specimen, is quite pathetic; however equating all "competition" with "fighting" or avarice, or what sub-90 iQ "people" and GED dropouts might falsely equate with "competition", in the sense something akin to a professional, organized sport or discipline with formal rules, is a bit fallacious, however.

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

I agree in general.

• The neocortex, also called the neopallium and isocortex, is the part of the mammalian brain involved in higher-order brain functions such as sensory perception, cognition, generation of motor commands,[1] spatial reasoning and language.
  -wiki

Re the Human Neo Cortex;

Advantages that explain this evolutionary success include a larger brain with a well-developed neocortex, prefrontal cortex and temporal lobes, which enable advanced abstract reasoning, language, problem solving, sociality, and culture through social learning.
Humans use tools more frequently and effectively than any other animal: they are the only extant species to build fires, cook food, clothe themselves, and create and use numerous other technologies and arts.

Yes, the thinking ability of human is the highest as a potential but not every human is neo-cortex is activated to its potentials.

It is not an American-only issue rather it is a humanity's issue.
The higher thinking ability of human via its neo-cortex is relatively a new emergence in relation to the whole phase of evolution over 4 billion years.
As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

Yes, the American current economic competitiveness is naturally more primal than being more human, but relatively it cannot be of the worst among all the current in the world.
I believe most of the countries in the world are more nationalistic than the USA, e.g. the larger economy like China, Russia, India, Brazil and worst still those of the smaller countries where self-protectionism is more critical for their survival.

IvoryBlackBishop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:48 am

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

It's debatable whether "conventional" thinking, or higher level intuition, as documented by authors such as physicist Fritjof Capra is actually the 'highest' documented form of cognitive activity.

Economic "competitiveness" in a greedy, rapacious sense, akin to a starving beast rather than a well fed or fitter specimen, is quite pathetic; however equating all "competition" with "fighting" or avarice, or what sub-90 iQ "people" and GED dropouts might falsely equate with "competition", in the sense something akin to a professional, organized sport or discipline with formal rules, is a bit fallacious, however.

It's debatable whether "conventional" thinking, or higher level intuition, as documented by authors such as physicist Fritjof Capra is actually the 'highest' documented form of cognitive activity.

By thinking I mean the overcoming of the view that we have received an account of what things are from the tradition which basically is a theory of the object. A being for study. And correspondingly the sense that we know what we are studying, what and who we are. Either in the dance of the philosophic tradition and the biblical, or in one or the other, or in what emerges from both, science as a system of game spaces which produce inventions for the economic requirements of the military control of the globe.

Economic "competitiveness" in a greedy, rapacious sense, akin to a starving beast rather than a well fed or fitter specimen, is quite pathetic; however equating all "competition" with "fighting" or avarice, or what sub-90 iQ "people" and GED dropouts might falsely equate with "competition", in the sense something akin to a professional, organized sport or discipline with formal rules, is a bit fallacious, however.

Absolutely. What I criticize is the mythology of happiness through the production of the things which brings about the progress through material work and correspondingly getting the best workers by competing. These are myths linked to the American system's powerful propaganda which does not lie outright but which deadens one to the path chosen. A path not simply defective or false, but which must be criticized in order to remove from the sleep of the tradition its enormous blinders.

On first blush Fritjof Capra is part of the traditional project of theorizing the object.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:29 am

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

I agree in general.

• The neocortex, also called the neopallium and isocortex, is the part of the mammalian brain involved in higher-order brain functions such as sensory perception, cognition, generation of motor commands,[1] spatial reasoning and language.
  -wiki

Re the Human Neo Cortex;

Advantages that explain this evolutionary success include a larger brain with a well-developed neocortex, prefrontal cortex and temporal lobes, which enable advanced abstract reasoning, language, problem solving, sociality, and culture through social learning.
Humans use tools more frequently and effectively than any other animal: they are the only extant species to build fires, cook food, clothe themselves, and create and use numerous other technologies and arts.

Yes, the thinking ability of human is the highest as a potential but not every human is neo-cortex is activated to its potentials.

It is not an American-only issue rather it is a humanity's issue.
The higher thinking ability of human via its neo-cortex is relatively a new emergence in relation to the whole phase of evolution over 4 billion years.
As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

Yes, the American current economic competitiveness is naturally more primal than being more human, but relatively it cannot be of the worst among all the current in the world.
I believe most of the countries in the world are more nationalistic than the USA, e.g. the larger economy like China, Russia, India, Brazil and worst still those of the smaller countries where self-protectionism is more critical for their survival.

What is the relationship or distinction between the neocortex and the pre-frontal cortex?

are more nationalistic than the USA

Capital respects no boarders, and so is the reverse of nationalistic. Trump's mercantilism is an obstruction to the free market (pro-business, not pro-market whether understood as American or world market), but a very weak one. In the smaller countries I suppose what happens is the destruction of quality work as happened in the colonial countries so that craftsmen instead make primarily garbage aimed at world markets and cease to be craftsmen becoming factory workers. Everyone comes under the cybernetic control of the military requirements of the Americana order which produces cash on computer accounts, but few material products (outside the leading sectors of tech).

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:29 am

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

I agree in general.

• The neocortex, also called the neopallium and isocortex, is the part of the mammalian brain involved in higher-order brain functions such as sensory perception, cognition, generation of motor commands,[1] spatial reasoning and language.
  -wiki

Re the Human Neo Cortex;

Advantages that explain this evolutionary success include a larger brain with a well-developed neocortex, prefrontal cortex and temporal lobes, which enable advanced abstract reasoning, language, problem solving, sociality, and culture through social learning.
Humans use tools more frequently and effectively than any other animal: they are the only extant species to build fires, cook food, clothe themselves, and create and use numerous other technologies and arts.

Yes, the thinking ability of human is the highest as a potential but not every human is neo-cortex is activated to its potentials.

It is not an American-only issue rather it is a humanity's issue.
The higher thinking ability of human via its neo-cortex is relatively a new emergence in relation to the whole phase of evolution over 4 billion years.
As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

Yes, the American current economic competitiveness is naturally more primal than being more human, but relatively it cannot be of the worst among all the current in the world.
I believe most of the countries in the world are more nationalistic than the USA, e.g. the larger economy like China, Russia, India, Brazil and worst still those of the smaller countries where self-protectionism is more critical for their survival.

What is the relationship or distinction between the neocortex and the pre-frontal cortex?

The pre-frontal cortex is a more specific part of the neocortex.

Here is the difference from Quora:

The cerebral cortex is the entire outer top part of the brain (the part that looks wrinkled).

The neocortex is that part of the cerebral cortex (maybe 90% of it) that is the modern, most newly ("neo") evolved part. The neocortex is basically everything except the regions at the edges (the hippocampus, and parts of the cingulate cortex). It is distinguished by having exactly 6 neural layers, whereas the older non-neocortex regions have 5, 4, or 3 layers.

The prefrontal cortex (also called the PFC) is that part of the neocortex at the very front of the brain. It is involved in "executive functions" such as planning, goals, and actions.

My point still stand;

As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

are more nationalistic than the USA

Capital respects no boarders, and so is the reverse of nationalistic. Trump's mercantilism is an obstruction to the free market (pro-business, not pro-market whether understood as American or world market), but a very weak one. In the smaller countries I suppose what happens is the destruction of quality work as happened in the colonial countries so that craftsmen instead make primarily garbage aimed at world markets and cease to be craftsmen becoming factory workers. Everyone comes under the cybernetic control of the military requirements of the Americana order which produces cash on computer accounts, but few material products (outside the leading sectors of tech).

As a non-American I see the previous US Governments [Republican and Democrats] seemingly altruistic acts to gain favor or bragging rights as 'alpha' as very stupid which is taken advantage by most countries.

Trump's approach to 'America First' is a corrective step to the above stupidity. Trump's economic moves has more net-positive gains to the USA than any negative to the world's economy. Point is the other countries are not that stupid, they will adapt to gain optimality in other ways.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:32 am

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:29 am
I agree in general.

• The neocortex, also called the neopallium and isocortex, is the part of the mammalian brain involved in higher-order brain functions such as sensory perception, cognition, generation of motor commands,[1] spatial reasoning and language.
  -wiki

Re the Human Neo Cortex;



Yes, the thinking ability of human is the highest as a potential but not every human is neo-cortex is activated to its potentials.

It is not an American-only issue rather it is a humanity's issue.
The higher thinking ability of human via its neo-cortex is relatively a new emergence in relation to the whole phase of evolution over 4 billion years.
As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

Yes, the American current economic competitiveness is naturally more primal than being more human, but relatively it cannot be of the worst among all the current in the world.
I believe most of the countries in the world are more nationalistic than the USA, e.g. the larger economy like China, Russia, India, Brazil and worst still those of the smaller countries where self-protectionism is more critical for their survival.

What is the relationship or distinction between the neocortex and the pre-frontal cortex?

The pre-frontal cortex is a more specific part of the neocortex.

Here is the difference from Quora:

The cerebral cortex is the entire outer top part of the brain (the part that looks wrinkled).

The neocortex is that part of the cerebral cortex (maybe 90% of it) that is the modern, most newly ("neo") evolved part. The neocortex is basically everything except the regions at the edges (the hippocampus, and parts of the cingulate cortex). It is distinguished by having exactly 6 neural layers, whereas the older non-neocortex regions have 5, 4, or 3 layers.

The prefrontal cortex (also called the PFC) is that part of the neocortex at the very front of the brain. It is involved in "executive functions" such as planning, goals, and actions.

My point still stand;

As such in general humans are being-more-animal than being-more-human.

are more nationalistic than the USA

Capital respects no boarders, and so is the reverse of nationalistic. Trump's mercantilism is an obstruction to the free market (pro-business, not pro-market whether understood as American or world market), but a very weak one. In the smaller countries I suppose what happens is the destruction of quality work as happened in the colonial countries so that craftsmen instead make primarily garbage aimed at world markets and cease to be craftsmen becoming factory workers. Everyone comes under the cybernetic control of the military requirements of the Americana order which produces cash on computer accounts, but few material products (outside the leading sectors of tech).

As a non-American I see the previous US Governments [Republican and Democrats] seemingly altruistic acts to gain favor or bragging rights as 'alpha' as very stupid which is taken advantage by most countries.

Trump's approach to 'America First' is a corrective step to the above stupidity. Trump's economic moves has more net-positive gains to the USA than any negative to the world's economy. Point is the other countries are not that stupid, they will adapt to gain optimality in other ways.

The human is traditionally distinguished from the animal through reason or a specific account of we are doing now with "speech." That interpretation no longer holds. The human is instead said to have a "subjective" essence. This is the tacit view of everyone visible in our daily thoughts, we speak of the "objective" as something holy. A bounded office of the understanding.

Usually the claim that we are a animals is linked to the social/instinctual reseption of this view (fact/value distinction, 1900circa Simmel et al) it is elucidated through noticing that there is a second form of the claim to be "animal" stemming from the break in mores of Enlightenment French rationalism and sexual liberation.

Both claims to be animal have a polemical significance. Both give orders from the past. Both have s vauge dreamy notion of the distinction, if any at all, between animal and human.

To clarify. With almost absurdity, but not really. Why is the sense centered being, the animal, not more vegatative (digestion like and low consous activity) or more inanimate (subject to basic physical partical laws)?

In order to think through the difficulties close investigation must break from these generalizations.

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

Socialism is needed to get rid of competitions.

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:32 pm

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

Socialism is needed to get rid of competitions.

so much for Darwin

-Imp

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:32 pm

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

Socialism is needed to get rid of competitions.

The notion of the Democratic world is a deep menace because the little Napoleon who crowns himself or self made man of green and red neon who is the son or daughter of their own works or schemes is both more free and more radically undefended. More isolated and more forced to attack the others and get his own back. Christ and Prince Myshkin have altered their face to become Faust and Donald Trump/Ureula von der Leyenn Rodschen.

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:32 pm

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

Socialism is needed to get rid of competitions.

If you wanna end individual self-direction and end innovation, let socialism take root.

America fails to the degree (state) capitalism is adulterated by (state) socialism.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:42 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:32 pm

TheVisionofEr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm The construction and enrichment of the human ability to think is the highest. The goals of the current American propaganda civilization towards economic competitiveness is correspondingly lacking and belongs to the lower stratum of human possibility.

Socialism is needed to get rid of competitions.

If you wanna end individual self-direction and end innovation, let socialism take root.

You can be self-directed and innovative under socialism too. It is a matter of better education or evolution.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:42 pm America fails to the degree (state) capitalism is adulterated by (state) socialism.

Capitalism is a falour.

You can be self-directed and innovative under socialism too. It is a matter of better education or evolution.

Please, cite a single example of a socialism that (1) offers better education and (2) offers open markets to allow that better education to be properly expressed. Socialism is bad news, a soul-killer; it turns men into cogs.

Free Enterprise is the tops. Capitalism is somewhat less than the tops (and state capitalism even less so) but for all its failings any variety of capitalism is superior to any variety of socialism.

Don't know what you mean, in context, by evolution.


Capitalism is a falour.

Not familiar with falour. A web search brought up no definition.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:07 pm You can be self-directed and innovative under socialism too. It is a matter of better education or evolution.

Please, cite a single example of a socialism that (1) offers better education and (2) offers open markets to allow that better education to be properly expressed. Socialism is bad news, a soul-killer; it turns men into cogs.

Think of Lynx. People work for the community. Think of Windows. People work for the self-interest. One is free. The other one you pay for it.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:07 pm Free Enterprise is the tops. Capitalism is somewhat less than the tops (and state capitalism even less so) but for all its failings any variety of capitalism is superior to any variety of socialism.

I don't think so. People just failed socialism.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:07 pm Don't know what you mean, in context, by evolution.

I mean to evolve more in order to be able to easier adopt with socialism.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:07 pm Capitalism is a falour.

Not familiar with falour. A web search brought up no definition.

Failure. Sorry for the mistyping.