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The big bang theory observed all being condensed into a single point expand into the variety of forms which are composed of point particles, with the laying out of point particles resulting in the forms. The one point self negated into many.

Dually the principle of explosion replicates this same patten, all assumptions condensed into a single axiom expanded into the variety of assumptions all composed of points of awareness, the laying out of assumed axioms, as points of awareness results in the many axioms. It is one assumed axiom self negated into many.

In these respects both the big bang and principle of explosion occured through the process of self-negation and as such are inherently two dimensions, one abstract and one physical, resulting in the same phenomena.

These phenomena, both empirical axioms and abstract axioms are connected by a single point that ties the foundations of a priori and a posteriori phenomenon as one.

This is just brilliant. After having a day of contemplation, I came to the same truth.

I conceptualized this truth in the following manner: All things are apart of nonduality. Whether it is consciousness or energy, there is a single point, or center, to where it originated. And all things originated from this point, as in one singularity. That singularity expanded and or took shape/transformed/grew in a multiple degrees/directions.

13 Til Infinity wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:59 pm This is just brilliant. After having a day of contemplation, I came to the same truth.

I conceptualized this truth in the following manner: All things are apart of nonduality. Whether it is consciousness or energy, there is a single point, or center, to where it originated. And all things originated from this point, as in one singularity. That singularity expanded and or took shape/transformed/grew in a multiple degrees/directions.

Thanks. I would have to agree with your premise, everything stems from a divergence and reconvergence of a point through which all empirical and abstract being occurs. The big bang is a multidimensional event creating and recreating all phenomena.

Physics breaks down to the interactions of point particles, math with the quantification of points, psychology with points of view. Everything is grounded in the forms created by the convergence/divergence of point space; the big bang is in a state of superpositioning.

No, you guys are confusing the mere coincidence of 'ordering' that defines how we percieve things like time in one direction. We only understand things from the simple to the more complex. There is no profoundness in this at all.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:11 pm No, you guys are confusing the mere coincidence of 'ordering' that defines how we percieve things like time in one direction. We only understand things from the simple to the more complex. There is no profoundness in this at all.

All generalities are statements of a series of complex particulate. We also perceive things from complex to simple.

Perception alternates between complex phenomena and simple phenomena, there is no rule as to where one begins in perception other than a point of view is always constant.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:03 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:11 pm No, you guys are confusing the mere coincidence of 'ordering' that defines how we percieve things like time in one direction. We only understand things from the simple to the more complex. There is no profoundness in this at all.

All generalities are statements of a series of complex particulate. We also perceive things from complex to simple.

Perception alternates between complex phenomena and simple phenomena, there is no rule as to where one begins in perception other than a point of view is always constant.

I already get this and why I said this is about 'order'. If you start from the complex, you might try to REDUCE it to simplicity. This then is about order and is what you are perceiving as profound without justice.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:09 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:03 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:11 pm No, you guys are confusing the mere coincidence of 'ordering' that defines how we percieve things like time in one direction. We only understand things from the simple to the more complex. There is no profoundness in this at all.

All generalities are statements of a series of complex particulate. We also perceive things from complex to simple.

Perception alternates between complex phenomena and simple phenomena, there is no rule as to where one begins in perception other than a point of view is always constant.

I already get this and why I said this is about 'order'. If you start from the complex, you might try to REDUCE it to simplicity. This then is about order and is what you are perceiving as profound without justice.

The order is irrelevant.

"Order" is relevant because it is used to define things like 'explosion'. Otherwise, how do you express that you can have something remotely different at one time or position to any other? What would it mean to have anything 'more' from something 'less' without assuming something about order?

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:29 am "Order" is relevant because it is used to define things like 'explosion'. Otherwise, how do you express that you can have something remotely different at one time or position to any other? What would it mean to have anything 'more' from something 'less' without assuming something about order?

The "explosion" of both the big bang and principle of explosion in logic exists at multiple states due to superpositioning, one explosion is superimposed on top of another. With the explosion of one phenomenon comes the entropy and negentropy of another. The explosion is the cycling of forms, be it abstract or physical.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:29 am "Order" is relevant because it is used to define things like 'explosion'. Otherwise, how do you express that you can have something remotely different at one time or position to any other? What would it mean to have anything 'more' from something 'less' without assuming something about order?

The "explosion" of both the big bang and principle of explosion in logic exists at multiple states due to superpositioning, one explosion is superimposed on top of another. With the explosion of one phenomenon comes the entropy and negentropy of another. The explosion is the cycling of forms, be it abstract or physical.

Your language is odd. But I'm gleaning from this that you somehow presume you've cheated 'order'. If you presume some kind of 'superposition' of everything all upon one another, you still require separating the parts to assert any meaning or everything remains in a state of chaos without any ability to speak of any patterns you think you see.

I need a thumbs up to agreement about this or I have nothing more to say.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:47 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:29 am "Order" is relevant because it is used to define things like 'explosion'. Otherwise, how do you express that you can have something remotely different at one time or position to any other? What would it mean to have anything 'more' from something 'less' without assuming something about order?

The "explosion" of both the big bang and principle of explosion in logic exists at multiple states due to superpositioning, one explosion is superimposed on top of another. With the explosion of one phenomenon comes the entropy and negentropy of another. The explosion is the cycling of forms, be it abstract or physical.

Your language is odd. But I'm gleaning from this that you somehow presume you've cheated 'order'. If you presume some kind of 'superposition' of everything all upon one another, you still require separating the parts to assert any meaning or everything remains in a state of chaos without any ability to speak of any patterns you think you see.

I need a thumbs up to agreement about this or I have nothing more to say.

A continual superposition of explosions, at the base level of physics and that of logic, necessitate an underlying cyclical form within all phenomena.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:52 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:47 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 am
The "explosion" of both the big bang and principle of explosion in logic exists at multiple states due to superpositioning, one explosion is superimposed on top of another. With the explosion of one phenomenon comes the entropy and negentropy of another. The explosion is the cycling of forms, be it abstract or physical.

Your language is odd. But I'm gleaning from this that you somehow presume you've cheated 'order'. If you presume some kind of 'superposition' of everything all upon one another, you still require separating the parts to assert any meaning or everything remains in a state of chaos without any ability to speak of any patterns you think you see.

I need a thumbs up to agreement about this or I have nothing more to say.

A continual superposition of explosions, at the base level of physics and that of logic, necessitate an underlying cyclical form within all phenomena.

So that's a thumbs down, then. I can't make sense of your language and so have nothing further to contribute.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:09 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:52 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:47 am
Your language is odd. But I'm gleaning from this that you somehow presume you've cheated 'order'. If you presume some kind of 'superposition' of everything all upon one another, you still require separating the parts to assert any meaning or everything remains in a state of chaos without any ability to speak of any patterns you think you see.

I need a thumbs up to agreement about this or I have nothing more to say.

A continual superposition of explosions, at the base level of physics and that of logic, necessitate an underlying cyclical form within all phenomena.

So that's a thumbs down, then. I can't make sense of your language and so have nothing further to contribute.

The continual repitition of the big bang and principle of explosion necessitates a common underlying pattern to all being, forms expand from void and contract back into it; any connection of forms is grounded in a universal expansion and contraction as pure movement.