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Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 am
by bahman
He could save his life and continue His teaching instead He preferred not to and got hanged on the crosse at the end saying oh God why did You forsaken me?
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:07 pm
by BardoXV
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 am
He could save his life and continue His teaching instead He preferred not to and got hanged on the crosse at the end saying oh God why did You forsaken me?
Jesus had taught all he needed to teach, it was time for him to preform the final act.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
by Age
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 am
He could save his life and continue His teaching instead He preferred not to and got hanged on the crosse at the end saying oh God why did You forsaken me?
Who is "jesus's" True Judge?
Maybe that Judge is all that was needed to be 'convinced', and had already been?
By the way, who is your Judge?
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:41 pm
by bahman
BardoXV wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:07 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 am
He could save his life and continue His teaching instead He preferred not to and got hanged on the crosse at the end saying oh God why did You forsaken me?
Jesus had taught all he needed to teach, it was time for him to preform the final act.
I don't think that He completed His teaching since otherwise there was no need for the church. Also, why He then failed and said that oh God why did you forsaken me? Why did God forsaken Him?
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm
by bahman
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:08 am
He could save his life and continue His teaching instead He preferred not to and got hanged on the crosse at the end saying oh God why did You forsaken me?
Who is "jesus's" True Judge?
I am talking about the judge who gave the death sentence on the cross. Jesus could simply convince Him by performing miracles.
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
Maybe that Judge is all that was needed to be 'convinced', and had already been?
So, the judge realized that He is God yet persecuted Him.
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
By the way, who is your Judge?
Everybody, including myself.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:39 pm
by BardoXV
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
Maybe that Judge is all that was needed to be 'convinced', and had already been?
So, the judge realized that He is God yet persecuted Him.
They feared more for their position than the afterlife, if they believed in the afterlife at all.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:41 pm
by BardoXV
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
By the way, who is your Judge?
Everybody, including myself.
If you include yourself then you have a very harsh judge indeed.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:20 pm
by bahman
BardoXV wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:39 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
Maybe that Judge is all that was needed to be 'convinced', and had already been?
So, the judge realized that He is God yet persecuted Him.
They feared more for their position than the afterlife, if they believed in the afterlife at all.
That is not really convincing. Someone comes to you and brings enough evidence that He is God. He also warns you of eternal Hell. But you still worry about your position.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:27 pm
by bahman
BardoXV wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:41 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm
By the way, who is your Judge?
Everybody, including myself.
If you include yourself then you have a very harsh judge indeed.
Actually I am quite happy with that. What is frustrating is to let people judge you.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:06 am
by attofishpi
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:41 pmAlso, He then said that oh God why did you forsaken me? Why did God forsaken Him?
No, he actually said "...
For<fuck>sake God! Where are ya!?..."
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:05 am
by bahman
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:06 am
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:41 pmAlso, He then said that oh God why did you forsaken me? Why did God forsaken Him?
No, he actually said "...
For<fuck>sake God! Where are ya!?..."
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:06 am
by attofishpi
bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:05 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:06 am
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:41 pmAlso, He then said that oh God why did you forsaken me? Why did God forsaken Him?
No, he actually said "...
For<fuck>sake God! Where are ya!?..."
In seriousness though, it is one of those 'faith' things. The Christ went around stating have faith, telling people that they lacked faith...and then ironically, lost faith when he was in the greatest agony.
Perhaps the original plan was for him to not sense so much pain prior to popping off, but God being a **** opted to push the limit until Christ capitulated and showed his own lack of faith.
What can I say - and from an ongoing experience - these fuckers like to play sadistic games when it comes to 'faith'.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:07 pm
by bahman
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:06 am
bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:05 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:06 am
No, he actually said "...
For<fuck>sake God! Where are ya!?..."
In seriousness though, it is one of those 'faith' things. The Christ went around stating have faith, telling people that they lacked faith...and then ironically, lost faith when he was in the greatest agony.
Perhaps the original plan was for him to not sense so much pain prior to popping off, but God being a **** opted to push the limit until Christ capitulated and showed his own lack of faith.
What can I say - and from an ongoing experience - these fuckers like to play sadistic games when it comes to 'faith'.
Very true.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:56 pm
by Bakhita
It would have been very odd for him to try and save his life, considering that he'd prophesied his own death before entering Jerusalem.
As for the phrase, "Why have you forsaken me?", it comes from psalm 22, which opens, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?", alludes to the lots cast for his garments, the piercing of his hands and feet, and concludes with the confidence that he will be triumphant. Very appropriate, considering his subsequent resurrection.
Re: Why Jesus didnt convinced the judge?
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:01 am
by bahman
Bakhita wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:56 pm
It would have been very odd for him to try and save his life, considering that he'd prophesied his own death before entering Jerusalem.
There is no such a thing as foreknowledge. Since people can always do otherwise.
Bakhita wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:56 pm
As for the phrase, "Why have you forsaken me?", it comes from psalm 22, which opens,
"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?", alludes to the lots cast for his garments, the piercing of his hands and feet, and concludes with the confidence that he will be triumphant. Very appropriate, considering his subsequent resurrection.
I think he was just left lonely and was desperate.