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Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.
The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

God, how much relevant are these words in our time! I completely agree with each of your words above, and completely share your point of view!

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.
The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

Here in Canada, our system has officially agreed to the belief that the Aboriginals here have experienced "cultural genocide". I'm apalled at this because they are using this to justify enhancing 'distinct' status of "Nations within the Nation" concept which is just a form of isolationism or 'apartide' in an aparently friendly way. I used to have a broader range of friends that included many Natives here but have lost all of them due to the way our system believes in justifying "culture" laws that permit segregated laws for particular people. Because these are all linked to a genetic means to define people, not something people choose to associate with, this trend of lawmaking is acting to foster racism rather than enhance acceptance. The 'accepted' belief today is that if you disagree to not looking at people as defined BY some genetic predisposition to own some 'culture', you are treated as though YOU are the "racist".

Example recent absurdity here: it is considered a crime of cultural genocide here to permit a person born of aboriginal blood to be adopted to non-aboriginal parents!! [This is justified by what is called the '60s Scoop' in which Native children were supposedly force to be taken away from their native parents unwillingly. This though is actually what the religious groups who were granted authority over 'assimilating' the Natives to a "Christian" worldview. Since many still credit our foundation AS "Christian" ....rather than simply an evolutionary stage of civilization, we are forced to accept this rather than face the real causes of any abuses if and where they may exist.]

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.

The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

I agree with your above two points but not the example, i.e. as is happening in China.

Firstly you committed a categorical error, i.e. Muslim-ness of Islam is not a race but an ideology.
As I had read, China is not messing with the basic culture of the Uyghur. Rather China is dealing with the evil ideology that is Islam which has a malignant, evil and violent ethos.

The fact is, it is Islam the ideology that has committed cultural genocide on the people of the Uyghur after they had converted to Islam hundred of years ago.
The ideology of Islam [worst than Nazism] have been wiping out all sorts of cultures and social traits of people around the world since its emergence 1400 years ago and replaced them with a religious ideology that has a malignant, evil and violent ethos.

China, as reported, is very greedy and has the drive to grab as much land as they can. This is a political move.

The majority as with every majority of people will try to dominate, but China has put a lot of effort to protect its minority, note,

China officially recognizes 56 ethnic minority groups within China in addition to the Han majority. ... By definition, these ethnic minority groups, together with the Han majority, make up the greater Chinese nationality known as zhonghua minzu. Chinese minorities alone are referred to as "shaoshu minzu".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_mi ... s_in_China

China often brag about the above as a plus point and promote tourism to bring prosperity to these minorities.

Therefore we cannot conclude China is bent on cultural genocide.

Politically as with any government, China is worried the Uyghurs will seek independence and break away thus will take steps to prevent that.
The greatest threat from the Uyghurs is their religion which is very exclusive and do not promote integration with others in China and the rest of the non-Muslim community.
Thus the logical move for China was to deal with the ideology of Islam that the Uyghurs are infected with.

Point is not all Uyghurs are evil prone, but the estimated 20% of evil prone Uyghurs will definitely caused problems and posed the potential threat of independence via evil and violence. It has already happened.
There are approximately 10+ million Ugyhurs [100% Muslims?] in Xingjiang. If 20% are evil prone Muslims, there are 2 million evil prone Muslims bounded by the evil and violent ethos of Islam.

As I read, the Chinese government is SOLELY tackling the evil ideology of Islam via re-education [brainwashing] to induce them to integrate with the rest of China and prevent the inherent terrorism from Islam. The Chinese government is not deterring nor abolishing the non-Islamic cultural elements of the Uyghurs.

Personally, I don't believe the Chinese government will be successful in re-education [brainwash] the hardcore evil prone Muslims from being bonded to the evil and violent ethos of the Islam.
Note the recent case of the supposedly "re-educated" jihadist, Usman Khan, who killed two in London.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/liv ... olice-city

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:58 am

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.
The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

Here in Canada, our system has officially agreed to the belief that the Aboriginals here have experienced "cultural genocide". I'm apalled at this because they are using this to justify enhancing 'distinct' status of "Nations within the Nation" concept which is just a form of isolationism or 'apartide' in an aparently friendly way. I used to have a broader range of friends that included many Natives here but have lost all of them due to the way our system believes in justifying "culture" laws that permit segregated laws for particular people. Because these are all linked to a genetic means to define people, not something people choose to associate with, this trend of lawmaking is acting to foster racism rather than enhance acceptance. The 'accepted' belief today is that if you disagree to not looking at people as defined BY some genetic predisposition to own some 'culture', you are treated as though YOU are the "racist".

Example recent absurdity here: it is considered a crime of cultural genocide here to permit a person born of aboriginal blood to be adopted to non-aboriginal parents!! [This is justified by what is called the '60s Scoop' in which Native children were supposedly force to be taken away from their native parents unwillingly. This though is actually what the religious groups who were granted authority over 'assimilating' the Natives to a "Christian" worldview. Since many still credit our foundation AS "Christian" ....rather than simply an evolutionary stage of civilization, we are forced to accept this rather than face the real causes of any abuses if and where they may exist.]

What do you expect? The Politically Correct are self-serving morons without a smidgen of self-awareness, trying to force some kind of collective guilt-trip on a population whose long-dead ancestors may or may not have committed questionable deeds on long-dead 'aboriginals'. I've always believed that the Politically Correct are classic projectors, desperately trying to compensate for their own rotten and racist core.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:58 am

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.
The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

Here in Canada, our system has officially agreed to the belief that the Aboriginals here have experienced "cultural genocide". I'm apalled at this because they are using this to justify enhancing 'distinct' status of "Nations within the Nation" concept which is just a form of isolationism or 'apartide' in an aparently friendly way. I used to have a broader range of friends that included many Natives here but have lost all of them due to the way our system believes in justifying "culture" laws that permit segregated laws for particular people. Because these are all linked to a genetic means to define people, not something people choose to associate with, this trend of lawmaking is acting to foster racism rather than enhance acceptance. The 'accepted' belief today is that if you disagree to not looking at people as defined BY some genetic predisposition to own some 'culture', you are treated as though YOU are the "racist".

Example recent absurdity here: it is considered a crime of cultural genocide here to permit a person born of aboriginal blood to be adopted to non-aboriginal parents!! [This is justified by what is called the '60s Scoop' in which Native children were supposedly force to be taken away from their native parents unwillingly.

What do you mean by " 'supposedly' forced to be taken away "?

Do you not accept that native children were forcibly taken away?

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:58 amThis though is actually what the religious groups who were granted authority over 'assimilating' the Natives to a "Christian" worldview. Since many still credit our foundation AS "Christian" ....rather than simply an evolutionary stage of civilization, we are forced to accept this rather than face the real causes of any abuses if and where they may exist.]

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 am

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.

The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

I agree with your above two points but not the example, i.e. as is happening in China.

Firstly you committed a categorical error, i.e. Muslim-ness of Islam is not a race but an ideology.
As I had read, China is not messing with the basic culture of the Uyghur. Rather China is dealing with the evil ideology that is Islam which has a malignant, evil and violent ethos.

The people of china might be dealing with just the different ideology that is islam, which is not like or just disliked, or is it with 100% absolutely certainty what you said it is?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amThe fact is, it is Islam the ideology that has committed cultural genocide on the people of the Uyghur after they had converted to Islam hundred of years ago.

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you now claiming here that the ideology of islam committed cultural genocide on the very people that converted to islam, and thus to the ideology of islam?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amThe ideology of Islam [worst than Nazism] have been wiping out all sorts of cultures and social traits of people around the world since its emergence 1400 years ago and replaced them with a religious ideology that has a malignant, evil and violent ethos.

This wiping out all sorts of cultures and social traits of people around the world sound very much like the so called "english" and the "christians".

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amChina, as reported, is very greedy and has the drive to grab as much land as they can. This is a political move.

Does this imply or infer that it is then "justified"?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amThe majority as with every majority of people will try to dominate, but China has put a lot of effort to protect its minority, note,

This sounds like the wrong they are doing is then "justified" and "excused", correct?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 am

China officially recognizes 56 ethnic minority groups within China in addition to the Han majority. ... By definition, these ethnic minority groups, together with the Han majority, make up the greater Chinese nationality known as zhonghua minzu. Chinese minorities alone are referred to as "shaoshu minzu".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_mi ... s_in_China

China often brag about the above as a plus point and promote tourism to bring prosperity to these minorities.

Therefore we cannot conclude China is bent on cultural genocide.

If this is what 'you' conclude, then so be it. But using the word 'we' IS OBVIOUSLY WRONG.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amPolitically as with any government, China is worried the Uyghurs will seek independence and break away thus will take steps to prevent that.

Yes a majority SHOULD NEVER let a minority "break away", and the majority SHOULD DO ALL they can to prevent it, correct?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amThe greatest threat from the Uyghurs is their religion which is very exclusive and do not promote integration with others in China and the rest of the non-Muslim community.
Thus the logical move for China was to deal with the ideology of Islam that the Uyghurs are infected with.

"infected with"

Lol

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amPoint is not all Uyghurs are evil prone, but the estimated 20% of evil prone Uyghurs will definitely caused problems and posed the potential threat of independence via evil and violence. It has already happened.

Lol

So best 'we' "take all steps to prevent any and all "others" ", correct.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amThere are approximately 10+ million Ugyhurs [100% Muslims?] in Xingjiang. If 20% are evil prone Muslims, there are 2 million evil prone Muslims bounded by the evil and violent ethos of Islam.

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amAs I read, the Chinese government is SOLELY tackling the evil ideology of Islam via re-education [brainwashing] to induce them to integrate with the rest of China and prevent the inherent terrorism from Islam. The Chinese government is not deterring nor abolishing the non-Islamic cultural elements of the Uyghurs.

Because 'you' know HOW?

Is it because, "as 'you' READ"?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 amPersonally, I don't believe the Chinese government will be successful in re-education [brainwash] the hardcore evil prone Muslims from being bonded to the evil and violent ethos of the Islam.
Note the recent case of the supposedly "re-educated" jihadist, Usman Khan, who killed two in London.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/liv ... olice-city

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:12 am
What do you expect? The Politically Correct are self-serving morons without a smidgen of self-awareness, trying to force some kind of collective guilt-trip on a population whose long-dead ancestors may or may not have committed questionable deeds on long-dead 'aboriginals'. I've always believed that the Politically Correct are classic projectors, desperately trying to compensate for their own rotten and racist core.

Replace "Politically Correct" with "Believing Muslim" and re-read.

The House of Islam is the House of Projection: to religiously accuse/blame others for their own crimes against humanity. A manifest example of such a pathology at work is the U.S. Democrats (ie. House of Islam) projecting their own Russia collusion / crimes onto DJT.

Islam is the ideology responsible for the degeneracy of the Left: the "us vs. them" mentality is derivative of the "believer vs. unbeliever" division that exists in/of Islam. The illness of the House of Islam blaming others for their own 'state' (ie. "Islamophobia") needs to be addressed globally, and will be addressed by prominent clinical psychologists such that Islam will be globally undermined by many nations. The release of FISA will begin this process, and there is nothing the House of Islam can do about it (but whine and squeal) because they don't know what they are facing with the release of FISA - they never thought Hillary would lose... but she did, and the House of Islam cried, whined and squealed like pig.

In effect: whereas the House of Islam "believes" it is using the hands of the West to destroy itself, the opposite becomes true: Islam has destroyed itself as the truth is all now laying in plain sight - just needs a "light" to shine on it such that all can see Islam for what it is: worship of pig.

nothing wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:02 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:12 am
What do you expect? The Politically Correct are self-serving morons without a smidgen of self-awareness, trying to force some kind of collective guilt-trip on a population whose long-dead ancestors may or may not have committed questionable deeds on long-dead 'aboriginals'. I've always believed that the Politically Correct are classic projectors, desperately trying to compensate for their own rotten and racist core.

Replace "Politically Correct" with "Believing Muslim" and re-read.

The House of Islam is the House of Projection: to religiously accuse/blame others for their own crimes against humanity. A manifest example of such a pathology at work is the U.S. Democrats (ie. House of Islam) projecting their own Russia collusion / crimes onto DJT.

Islam is the ideology responsible for the degeneracy of the Left: the "us vs. them" mentality is derivative of the "believer vs. unbeliever" division that exists in/of Islam. The illness of the House of Islam blaming others for their own 'state' (ie. "Islamophobia") needs to be addressed globally, and will be addressed by prominent clinical psychologists such that Islam will be globally undermined by many nations. The release of FISA will begin this process, and there is nothing the House of Islam can do about it (but whine and squeal) because they don't know what they are facing with the release of FISA - they never thought Hillary would lose... but she did, and the House of Islam cried, whined and squealed like pig.

In effect: whereas the House of Islam "believes" it is using the hands of the West to destroy itself, the opposite becomes true: Islam has destroyed itself as the truth is all now laying in plain sight - just needs a "light" to shine on it such that all can see Islam for what it is: worship of pig.

Not sure what the hell you are bleating on about but you do seem to be the same person as veritas aquitas. Are you another of those yanks whining about muslims when there are practically no muslims in the US anyway (with many yanks still busy having fun in MUSLIM countries)?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:34 pm

nothing wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:02 pm In effect: whereas the House of Islam "believes" it is using the hands of the West to destroy itself, the opposite becomes true: Islam has destroyed itself as the truth is all now laying in plain sight - just needs a "light" to shine on it such that all can see Islam for what it is: worship of pig.

Not sure what the hell you are bleating on about but you do seem to be the same person as veritas aquitas. Are you another of those yanks whining about muslims when there are practically no muslims in the US anyway (with many yanks still busy having fun in MUSLIM countries)?

The main issue 'nothing' and me have problem with the ideology of Islam is the same whilst the approach is different.

You are so desperate for whatever the reason, that it made you very stupid to declare "there are practically no muslims in the US anyway."
Note, there are approximately 3.45 million Muslims in the USA in 2017, thus greater by now in 2019.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... s-to-grow/

The problem is not Muslims but rather the evil ideology of Islam that compelled SOME* evil prone Muslims to commit terrible evil and violent acts upon non-Muslims as a religious duty to please Allah.

If the number of evil prone [of reasonable degree] is 20%, then we have approximate 690,000 evil prone Muslims who are obligated via their duty to war against and kill non-Muslims.
This 690,000 are the potential but many have already acted in killing innocent Americans for the reason because they are non-Muslims.

Note this official document from the Muslim Brotherhood produced on court in the USA;

The following is the official document from a 1991 meeting which outlines the Muslim Brotherhood’s strategic goals for North America.
The document was entered as evidence in the 2008 Holy Land Terror Funding Trial.
Federal investigators found the document in the home of Ismael Elbarasse, a founder of the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, during a 2004 search. Elbarasse was a member of the Palestine Committee, which the Muslim

“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”
https://clarionproject.org/muslim_broth ... emorandum/

You are very stupid, wicked and evil in ignoring the above and have no concern for the rest of humanity.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:35 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:58 am

RWStanding wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm Cultural Genocide
There are two ways in which cultural genocide may be and is being perpetrated.
Firstly, by tyrannical racism, in which a minority culture is suppressed and the culture in power imposed through forced re-education. As is reportedly happening in China.
The second is by misused human rights that treat everyone and every society universally, not as equal, but as the same. And every part of the world open by right to all people.

Here in Canada, our system has officially agreed to the belief that the Aboriginals here have experienced "cultural genocide". I'm apalled at this because they are using this to justify enhancing 'distinct' status of "Nations within the Nation" concept which is just a form of isolationism or 'apartide' in an aparently friendly way. I used to have a broader range of friends that included many Natives here but have lost all of them due to the way our system believes in justifying "culture" laws that permit segregated laws for particular people. Because these are all linked to a genetic means to define people, not something people choose to associate with, this trend of lawmaking is acting to foster racism rather than enhance acceptance. The 'accepted' belief today is that if you disagree to not looking at people as defined BY some genetic predisposition to own some 'culture', you are treated as though YOU are the "racist".

Example recent absurdity here: it is considered a crime of cultural genocide here to permit a person born of aboriginal blood to be adopted to non-aboriginal parents!! [This is justified by what is called the '60s Scoop' in which Native children were supposedly force to be taken away from their native parents unwillingly.

What do you mean by " 'supposedly' forced to be taken away "?

Do you not accept that native children were forcibly taken away?

No, not on an absolute scale the govenrment is asserting by faith alone. If it were true, the conspiracy would so absolute that real people would need to be charged. No actual specific charges nor court cases exist to prove nor disprove any claims of abuses. Our present paradigm here in Canada is to treat all specially assigned groups of people based upon one's genetic inheritance as superior or inferior without literally using those words. All women, for instance, are being treated as though they cannot lie and so the 'guilt-before-innocence' concept is reversed. Those with mere Native blood are being treated as owning certain non-genetic behaviors as though they are genetic, such as assuming that while tobacco is absurdly taxed here to all others, for Natives, they don't have to pay ANY tax on tobacco given this is presumed to be their 'cultural' inheritance.

Such attrocities, if real, are worse than the Holocaust in principle because it assigns anyone with genetic relationship to those Europeans NOT protected by the Constitution as guilty by mere genetic association.

P.S. Canada's Multiculturalism (TM) is what contributes greatly to the uprising of many advocacy groups everywhere around the world and is also the indirect cause of the increased Nationalism occurring everywhere. We are the "Southern Confederates" that hideously look like 'saints' as we are promoting the SEGREGATION LAWS that the U.S. had their Civil war under. There are other such racial/ethnic purists involved too that are pulling the strings to make what used to be clearly racist and sexist ideologies appear as though they are the opposite.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:15 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:35 am

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:58 am

Here in Canada, our system has officially agreed to the belief that the Aboriginals here have experienced "cultural genocide". I'm apalled at this because they are using this to justify enhancing 'distinct' status of "Nations within the Nation" concept which is just a form of isolationism or 'apartide' in an aparently friendly way. I used to have a broader range of friends that included many Natives here but have lost all of them due to the way our system believes in justifying "culture" laws that permit segregated laws for particular people. Because these are all linked to a genetic means to define people, not something people choose to associate with, this trend of lawmaking is acting to foster racism rather than enhance acceptance. The 'accepted' belief today is that if you disagree to not looking at people as defined BY some genetic predisposition to own some 'culture', you are treated as though YOU are the "racist".

Example recent absurdity here: it is considered a crime of cultural genocide here to permit a person born of aboriginal blood to be adopted to non-aboriginal parents!! [This is justified by what is called the '60s Scoop' in which Native children were supposedly force to be taken away from their native parents unwillingly.

What do you mean by " 'supposedly' forced to be taken away "?

Do you not accept that native children were forcibly taken away?

No, not on an absolute scale the govenrment is asserting by faith alone.

Okay, but I thought that if more than one native child was forcibly taken away, then that would just simply mean that native children were forcibly taken away. I did not realize there are whole other variables involved here.

So, what is the "absolute scale" the government is asserting by faith alone, which you do not accept?

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:15 am If it were true, the conspiracy would so absolute that real people would need to be charged. No actual specific charges nor court cases exist to prove nor disprove any claims of abuses. Our present paradigm here in Canada is to treat all specially assigned groups of people based upon one's genetic inheritance as superior or inferior without literally using those words. All women, for instance, are being treated as though they cannot lie and so the 'guilt-before-innocence' concept is reversed. Those with mere Native blood are being treated as owning certain non-genetic behaviors as though they are genetic,

What are those non-genetic behaviors, which are supposedly being treated as though they are genetic?

By the way, I have observed a lot of adult human beings treating non-genetic behaviors as though they are genetic?

In fact adults use 'genetics' as one of the excuses or "justifications" for the continual wrong behaviors that they, themselves, do.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:15 am such as assuming that while tobacco is absurdly taxed here to all others, for Natives, they don't have to pay ANY tax on tobacco given this is presumed to be their 'cultural' inheritance.

Okay, but is 'cultural' inheritance 'genetical''?

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:15 am Such attrocities, if real, are worse than the Holocaust in principle because it assigns anyone with genetic relationship to those Europeans NOT protected by the Constitution as guilty by mere genetic association.

And what is the fine or punishment for being "guilty by mere genetic association"? Having to pay SOME tax on tobacco?

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:15 am P.S. Canada's Multiculturalism (TM) is what contributes greatly to the uprising of many advocacy groups everywhere around the world and is also the indirect cause of the increased Nationalism occurring everywhere. We are the "Southern Confederates" that hideously look like 'saints' as we are promoting the SEGREGATION LAWS that the U.S. had their Civil war under. There are other such racial/ethnic purists involved too that are pulling the strings to make what used to be clearly racist and sexist ideologies appear as though they are the opposite.

Yet all the time ALL adult human beings, "themselves", are being racist and sexist, in 'trying to' defend their opposing positions on this issue/topic, correct.

Here is my modest contribution to this thread. I hope it helps.
One of the very interesting thing about Islam with respect to the West, is that Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is praised and prophesied by NAME in the Jewish Bible. Here is a YouTube video which explains the matter in detail: https://youtu.be/wm3sZfPwv1g

For those who would need to investigate the matter further from Jewish sources itself, below are a couple of links to get started.
Here is a Jewish site where the Jewish Biblical text in Hebrew is juxtaposed with the English translation where the relevant verses are shown: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm

And here is the link from the same Jewish site to an mp3 audio where a Rabbi is reciting these verses in Hebrew. At the 2:32 to 2:42 timestamp of the audio, the name Muhammadim can be clearly and unambiguously heard: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/mp3/t3005.mp3

Thank you for reading.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:34 pm
Not sure what the hell you are bleating on about but you do seem to be the same person as veritas aquitas. Are you another of those yanks whining about muslims when there are practically no muslims in the US anyway (with many yanks still busy having fun in MUSLIM countries)?

The first victim of Islam is the believing Muslim - nobody is whining about "Muslims": if anything, Muslims incessantly whine and squeal over just about anything and everything: including the ridicule of their idol Muhammad or the egregiously man-made Qur'an. This pig nature is invariably scapegoated onto "Jews" but as the Mark of Cain indicates: the accuser is the accused. Like idol, like idol worshiper: pig.

The U.S. is full of sleeper-cell Muslims waiting for the command to attack. It is their "religion": to kill people who do not "believe" a clearly man-made book and dead polygamous pedophile infidel warlord is the greatest model for all of humanity. In other words: they kill people for not worshiping their idols. The Jews before them did the same: thus, all Muslims are practically Jews, except the Jew is the scapegoat of the Muslim.

It is all of the same Jewish idol worship that justifies the depravity of them - that is the functional purpose of idols such as Muhammad.

nothing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:16 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:34 pm
Not sure what the hell you are bleating on about but you do seem to be the same person as veritas aquitas. Are you another of those yanks whining about muslims when there are practically no muslims in the US anyway (with many yanks still busy having fun in MUSLIM countries)?

The first victim of Islam is the believing Muslim - nobody is whining about "Muslims": if anything, Muslims incessantly whine and squeal over just about anything and everything: including the ridicule of their idol Muhammad or the egregiously man-made Qur'an. This pig nature is invariably scapegoated onto "Jews" but as the Mark of Cain indicates: the accuser is the accused. Like idol, like idol worshiper: pig.

The U.S. is full of sleeper-cell Muslims waiting for the command to attack. It is their "religion": to kill people who do not "believe" a clearly man-made book and dead polygamous pedophile infidel warlord is the greatest model for all of humanity. In other words: they kill people for not worshiping their idols. The Jews before them did the same: thus, all Muslims are practically Jews, except the Jew is the scapegoat of the Muslim.

It is all of the same Jewish idol worship that justifies the depravity of them - that is the functional purpose of idols such as Muhammad.

Just how quickly things can change.

These are your claimed first words in this forum:

Hello, greetings.

First and forever foremost: let there be peace. This is my first post thus as a forewarning: please forgive the unorthodox style owing to the author having absolutely none.

Forgetting your unorthodox style, or lack of, as you claim, let us look at the words;

First and forever foremost: let there be peace.

And let us look at how much you were 'trying' so hard to come across as wanting, doing, and being for World Peace, however, thee actual Truth just could not be detained anymore, and thus look at how much 'you' have degenerate from those first words; "let there be peace".

Your True intentions in this forum are clear and obvious now. Another one just full of hatred for "others". Yet the funniest part of this is if you were born into and up in a country with that religion only, then you would be one of the biggest haters of "others" and 'you' would actually be the one who really wants to "kill" "others", and most likely would be the one who fulfills this.