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He moved to San Francisco where he lived in decrepit apartments among alcoholics, drug addicts and other mental patients. There he met a new friend, Allan Hanson, who confirmed his beliefs on reincarnation, and began to believe that his voices where really telepathy, indicating that he was chosen by God to do something special.
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Herb stands trial for the murders. During the trial, Herb stated that the heard messages that told him to commit human sacrifices to prevent massive earthquakes in California. He called these messages “die songs”.

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%204 ... erbert.htm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am I came across this video re Herbert Mullin, a serial killer who killed 13 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMv2xeu7Hk

In that video, Herbert claimed God spoke to him and ordered him to kill people as a sacrifice to save California from a potential earthquake.

He moved to San Francisco where he lived in decrepit apartments among alcoholics, drug addicts and other mental patients. There he met a new friend, Allan Hanson, who confirmed his beliefs on reincarnation, and began to believe that his voices where really telepathy, indicating that he was chosen by God to do something special.
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Herb stands trial for the murders. During the trial, Herb stated that the heard messages that told him to commit human sacrifices to prevent massive earthquakes in California. He called these messages “die songs”.

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%204 ... erbert.htm

There are many cases of people who killed many upon their direct experience with God who had commanded them to kill.

My question is;
1. Aside from the moral element, what is the difference between the God of theistic religions and the God of Herbert Mullin and his likes.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am2. Are there similarities between the two ideas of God?

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:21 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am I came across this video re Herbert Mullin, a serial killer who killed 13 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMv2xeu7Hk

In that video, Herbert claimed God spoke to him and ordered him to kill people as a sacrifice to save California from a potential earthquake.

He moved to San Francisco where he lived in decrepit apartments among alcoholics, drug addicts and other mental patients. There he met a new friend, Allan Hanson, who confirmed his beliefs on reincarnation, and began to believe that his voices where really telepathy, indicating that he was chosen by God to do something special.
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Herb stands trial for the murders. During the trial, Herb stated that the heard messages that told him to commit human sacrifices to prevent massive earthquakes in California. He called these messages “die songs”.

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%204 ... erbert.htm

There are many cases of people who killed many upon their direct experience with God who had commanded them to kill.

My question is;
1. Aside from the moral element, what is the difference between the God of theistic religions and the God of Herbert Mullin and his likes.

Is there a difference?

If 'you', "veritas aequitas", know that there is a difference, then what is THE difference?

If 'you' do NOT know what the difference is, then how do you KNOW that there is even A difference?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am2. Are there similarities between the two ideas of God?

What are the two 'ideas' of God?

'we' are yet to even establish what 'your' idea of 'God' is yet.

You have not yet explained what 'your' idea of God is, but 'you' continually go on about "other's" ideas of God.

Tell 'us' what these supposedly "two ideas of God" ARE, then I will TELL 'you' IF there are similarities between these "two ideas of God".

SEE how simple AND easy things REALLY ARE.

• 1. the God of theistic religions and
  2. the God of Herbert Mullin and his likes.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:36 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:21 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am I came across this video re Herbert Mullin, a serial killer who killed 13 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMv2xeu7Hk

In that video, Herbert claimed God spoke to him and ordered him to kill people as a sacrifice to save California from a potential earthquake.



There are many cases of people who killed many upon their direct experience with God who had commanded them to kill.

My question is;
1. Aside from the moral element, what is the difference between the God of theistic religions and the God of Herbert Mullin and his likes.

Is there a difference?

If 'you', "veritas aequitas", know that there is a difference, then what is THE difference?

If 'you' do NOT know what the difference is, then how do you KNOW that there is even A difference?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:42 am2. Are there similarities between the two ideas of God?

What are the two 'ideas' of God?

'we' are yet to even establish what 'your' idea of 'God' is yet.

You have not yet explained what 'your' idea of God is, but 'you' continually go on about "other's" ideas of God.

Tell 'us' what these supposedly "two ideas of God" ARE, then I will TELL 'you' IF there are similarities between these "two ideas of God".

SEE how simple AND easy things REALLY ARE.

Didn't you read my question?

My question is [restated];
Aside from the moral element, what is the difference between

• 1. the God of theistic religions and
  2. the God of Herbert Mullin and his likes.

The God[s] of the theistic religions are herein;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

The God of Herbert Mullin is that God within his mind that commanded him to kill humans.

We have gone through this before, I don't believe God exists, so there is no idea of God from me. I can only related what is God[s] to theists as above.

I believe the God of Herbert Mullin is the same as yours, i.e. it is all from your mind and is psychological.