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Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:02 am
by abcd
Hi. I was reading Plato: Complete Works (edited by John M. Cooper) years ago and came across a sentence/sentences like this: The masses believe whatever they hear on the street. The aim of education is to raise us above that level so that we don’t believe whatever we hear on the street.
Of course this is my paraphrase, but I don’t think I stray from the original text too much. Now I don’t remember the exact words of Plato or which work these words come from. I’m writing something now and I really want to quote this; so could someone help me find where it is? If you don’t know where the quote comes from, I’d also appreciate similar quotes from Plato or other famous philosophers or intellectuals. Thank you.
Please don’t delete this post because this is not just a help-me post. I’ll discuss this quote with others after I locate it. Thank you so much.

Re: Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:15 pm
by Impenitent
"Don't drink that..."

-Imp

Re: Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:23 am
by Walker
"I drank what?"

Re: Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:46 am
by upsurgent
abcd wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:02 am Hi. I was reading Plato: Complete Works (edited by John M. Cooper) years ago and came across a sentence/sentences like this: The masses believe whatever they hear on the street. The aim of education is to raise us above that level so that we don’t believe whatever we hear on the street.
Of course this is my paraphrase, but I don’t think I stray from the original text too much. Now I don’t remember the exact words of Plato or which work these words come from. I’m writing something now and I really want to quote this; so could someone help me find where it is? If you don’t know where the quote comes from, I’d also appreciate similar quotes from Plato or other famous philosophers or intellectuals. Thank you.
Please don’t delete this post because this is not just a help-me post. I’ll discuss this quote with others after I locate it. Thank you so much.
Never encountered a statement like that in the dialogs, don't know about the Republic.

Re: Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:08 pm
by nothing
If you don’t know where the quote comes from, I’d also appreciate similar quotes from Plato or other famous philosophers or intellectuals. Thank you.
Please don’t delete this post because this is not just a help-me post. I’ll discuss this quote with others after I locate it. Thank you so much.
I don't know of it, but re:
The masses believe whatever they hear on the street. The aim of education is to raise us above that level so that we don’t believe whatever we hear on the street.
If Plato said anything like this, he was right.

Any all-knowing god would know any/all not to believe.
Thus knowledge negates belief: it would take any believer
to believe the opposite of what is true, such as evil is good.