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1. Derivation(s)
2. TL; DR

***1***
Start with infinitude:
a folded circle ( 8 )
unfold it: 0 = inf thus:

inf = 0
god = 1

absurdly assume for the
sake of highlighting absurdity:
i. god exists (?)
ii. god is infinite

*1^inf = 0, *1 <-*god is infinitely one

try to *remove god* (to infer any possible *inverse-of-god*)

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
___
wherein *-1 can act variably on either/both infinitude 0 and/or god 1

if: *-1 acts on 1:

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
1^inf *-1 = {0, 0}
1^inf = 1 <- god

if: *-1 acts on 0:

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
1^inf *-1 = {*-1, 1}
1^inf = -1 <-inverse-of-god (satan?)
__________________
1^inf = {0, 1} {0, -1}
two variable solutions:
{0, 1} and {0, -1}

fixed/shared: 0

let 1 be k
let infinity 0 be b
let -1 be -k

b = k - k

set:

k to: knowledge-in-and-of-itself, hence {knowledge}, with a *candidacy of "positive" (ie. god / good)
b to: belief-in-and-of-itself, hence {belief}, with a *candidacy of "neutral net ad infinitum"
-k to: ignorance-in-and-of-itself, hence {ignorance}, with a *candidacy of "negative" (ie. satan / evil)
____________________
*candidacy: potential

for:

b = k - k
as in:
0 = 1 - 1

k = b (+) k
{knowledge} = {belief} + (inverse of) {ignorance}
viz.
Knowledge is any/all negation of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).
candidate: positive (+) (ie. god / good)

-k = b - k
{ignorance} = {belief} - {knowledge}
viz.
Ignorance is any/all belief absent any/all knowledge.
candidate: negative (-) (ie. satan / evil)

b = k - k
{belief} = {knowledge} - {ignorance}
viz.
*Belief is any/all state(s) between knowledge and ignorance.
candidate: (n)eutral net ad infinitum
___
*because belief-in-and-of-itself (ie. (+/-) 0, between 1 and -1) can be either positive (ie. to be) or negative (ie. not to be) allowing for so-called good/evil but still leaving them undefined as per GENESIS 2:17, it would be a blunder to render "belief is knowledge less ignorance" because this assumes the presence of knowledge a priori. It is possible to relentlessly (ie. militarily) "believe" (as) a problem-in-and-of-itself is (as) a solution-in-and-of-itself, which is certainly an ignorance-in-and-of-itself wholly rooted in (a) "belief"-based ignorance(s) absent knowledge(-in-and-of-itself) needed to know *not* believe such to be so.

viz.

Knowledge is any/all negation of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).
Belief is any/all state(s) between knowledge and ignorance.
Ignorance is any/all belief absent any/all knowledge.

ABSURDITY:

Consider the antithetical nature of:

god
( 8 )
satan

are there any fixed characteristics of one
which can be used to infer the other?

god
( 8 )
satan <-*requires belief-in-and-of-itself viz. to believe *evil-is-good / *satan-is-god
_________________________________
*problem-in-and-of-itself equiv. to believing -1 is 1

recalling:

1^inf = {0, 1} {0, -1}
{0, 1} and {0, -1}

viz.

It (ie. satan/evil) *requires belief-in-and-of-itself to ever conceivably cause any/all belief: *evil is good
(without the need/inclining to attempt to define them as per the warning of Gen. 2:17).

So by setting equivalence:

{0, 1} / {0, *-1}
{good} / {*evil}
____________
*requires belief-in-and-of-itself to confuse -1 for 1 / evil for good

Any (possible) all-knowing god(s) would necessarily know any/all belief-based ignorance(s) exist by way of belief-in-and-of-itself.

{0, 1} = belief-in-and-of-itself leads to: ignorance-in-and-of-itself ad infinitum
{0, -1} = negation of belief-based ignorance(s) otherwise existing ad infinitum viz. knowledge-in-and-of-itself

viz.

***2***
TL; DR

All knowing is belief (?), but not all belief is knowing.

is ABSURD. The enclosed derivation finds:

All BELIEF is IGNORANCE, but not all ignorance is belief.

defeating the former, and tries for:

All knowing is by way of indefinitely trying any/all belief, but
not any/all belief is by way of indefinitely trying to know all.

Which is definitely sound and definitely-indefinitely tends from any/all possible evil *towards* good ad infinitum, without the need to explicitly define them in respect/regard to Genesis 2:17. It is the very act of believing to know either which invites any/all potentiality for confusing one with the other. The two Edenic trees can thus be derived:

Living: KNOW, any/all *not to* BELIEVE (renders satan / belief-based ignorance impotent)
Death: BELIEVE, *not to* any/all KNOW (renders satan / belief-based ignorance potent)

viz.

I know I am not... = knowledge
I believe I am... = ignorance
I know I believe not... = knowledge
I believe I know... = ignorance

Belief in any all-knowing god is thus just as absurd as any/all belief-based ignorance(s) could permit.

nothing wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:36 pm 1. Derivation(s)
2. TL; DR

***1***
Start with infinitude:
a folded circle ( 8 )
unfold it: 0 = inf thus:

inf = 0
god = 1

absurdly assume for the
sake of highlighting absurdity:
i. god exists (?)
ii. god is infinite

*1^inf = 0, *1 <-*god is infinitely one

try to *remove god* (to infer any possible *inverse-of-god*)

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
___
wherein *-1 can act variably on either/both infinitude 0 and/or god 1

if: *-1 acts on 1:

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
1^inf *-1 = {0, 0}
1^inf = 1 <- god

if: *-1 acts on 0:

1^inf *-1 = {0, 1} *-1
1^inf *-1 = {*-1, 1}
1^inf = -1 <-inverse-of-god (satan?)
__________________
1^inf = {0, 1} {0, -1}
two variable solutions:
{0, 1} and {0, -1}

fixed/shared: 0

let 1 be k
let infinity 0 be b
let -1 be -k

b = k - k

set:

k to: knowledge-in-and-of-itself, hence {knowledge}, with a *candidacy of "positive" (ie. god / good)
b to: belief-in-and-of-itself, hence {belief}, with a *candidacy of "neutral net ad infinitum"
-k to: ignorance-in-and-of-itself, hence {ignorance}, with a *candidacy of "negative" (ie. satan / evil)
____________________
*candidacy: potential

for:

b = k - k
as in:
0 = 1 - 1

k = b (+) k
{knowledge} = {belief} + (inverse of) {ignorance}
viz.
Knowledge is any/all negation of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).
candidate: positive (+) (ie. god / good)

-k = b - k
{ignorance} = {belief} - {knowledge}
viz.
Ignorance is any/all belief absent any/all knowledge.
candidate: negative (-) (ie. satan / evil)

b = k - k
{belief} = {knowledge} - {ignorance}
viz.
*Belief is any/all state(s) between knowledge and ignorance.
candidate: (n)eutral net ad infinitum
___
*because belief-in-and-of-itself (ie. (+/-) 0, between 1 and -1) can be either positive (ie. to be) or negative (ie. not to be) allowing for so-called good/evil but still leaving them undefined as per GENESIS 2:17, it would be a blunder to render "belief is knowledge less ignorance" because this assumes the presence of knowledge a priori. It is possible to relentlessly (ie. militarily) "believe" (as) a problem-in-and-of-itself is (as) a solution-in-and-of-itself, which is certainly an ignorance-in-and-of-itself wholly rooted in (a) "belief"-based ignorance(s) absent knowledge(-in-and-of-itself) needed to know *not* believe such to be so.

viz.

Knowledge is any/all negation of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).
Belief is any/all state(s) between knowledge and ignorance.
Ignorance is any/all belief absent any/all knowledge.

ABSURDITY:

Consider the antithetical nature of:

god
( 8 )
satan

are there any fixed characteristics of one
which can be used to infer the other?

god
( 8 )
satan <-*requires belief-in-and-of-itself viz. to believe *evil-is-good / *satan-is-god
_________________________________
*problem-in-and-of-itself equiv. to believing -1 is 1

recalling:

1^inf = {0, 1} {0, -1}
{0, 1} and {0, -1}

viz.

It (ie. satan/evil) *requires belief-in-and-of-itself to ever conceivably cause any/all belief: *evil is good
(without the need/inclining to attempt to define them as per the warning of Gen. 2:17).

So by setting equivalence:

{0, 1} / {0, *-1}
{good} / {*evil}
____________
*requires belief-in-and-of-itself to confuse -1 for 1 / evil for good

Any (possible) all-knowing god(s) would necessarily know any/all belief-based ignorance(s) exist by way of belief-in-and-of-itself.

{0, 1} = belief-in-and-of-itself leads to: ignorance-in-and-of-itself ad infinitum
{0, -1} = negation of belief-based ignorance(s) otherwise existing ad infinitum viz. knowledge-in-and-of-itself

viz.

***2***
TL; DR

All knowing is belief (?), but not all belief is knowing.

is ABSURD. The enclosed derivation finds:

All BELIEF is IGNORANCE, but not all ignorance is belief.

defeating the former, and tries for:

All knowing is by way of indefinitely trying any/all belief, but
not any/all belief is by way of indefinitely trying to know all.

Which is definitely sound and definitely-indefinitely tends from any/all possible evil *towards* good ad infinitum, without the need to explicitly define them in respect/regard to Genesis 2:17. It is the very act of believing to know either which invites any/all potentiality for confusing one with the other. The two Edenic trees can thus be derived:

Living: KNOW, any/all *not to* BELIEVE (renders satan / belief-based ignorance impotent)
Death: BELIEVE, *not to* any/all KNOW (renders satan / belief-based ignorance potent)

viz.

I know I am not... = knowledge
I believe I am... = ignorance
I know I believe not... = knowledge
I believe I know... = ignorance

Belief in any all-knowing god is thus just as absurd as any/all belief-based ignorance(s) could permit.

Still requires a belief in which definition to negate, definition is symbolism, to define God is to give form to the subconsciousness (void) through a symbol. The symbol thus becomes "god" to the observer.

Still requires a belief in which definition to negate, definition is symbolism, to define God is to give form to the subconsciousness (void) through a symbol. The symbol thus becomes "god" to the observer.

Requires not belief: a knowledge-negating-belief is-as-a knowledge-in-and-of-itself viz. to not define.

(absence of) definition is (absence of) symbolism, to (not) define God is to (take) no form to the consciousness (void) of which a(ny) symbol (relies). The (absence of) symbol thus (negates)...

-2 (any/all)
-1 KNOW <-*TREE OF LIVING
0 I AM (willing to)...
+1 BELIEVE <-*TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL
+2 (*not to*)

0+ belief = idolatry of any/all
0- knowledge-negating-belief = (inverse of) idolatry of any/all

(+) to be(lieve) to know...
(or)
(-) know not to be(lieve) ...
______________________________________
(-+) is to (lieve) <-*equiv: from-evil-to-good
(+-) is to (eveil) <-*equiv: from-good-to-evil

0+ I AM (willing to)...BELIEVE (any/all) (*not to*) KNOW...
0- I AM (willing to)...KNOW (any/all) (*not to*) BELIEVE...

0+ (leads to:) SUFFERING/DEATH
0- (leads to:) (inverse of) ^^^

All knowing is definitely by way of indefinitely trying any/all belief, but
definitely not any/all belief is by way of indefinitely trying to know all.

renders:

All knowing is belief (?), but not all belief is knowing.

as an absolutely absurd conflation(?) of knowledge and belief.

_______________________________________

P = P
P -> P

a new equivalence variable: variablility (?)
of any particulate (ie. as necessarily having need for, by virtue of its particular existence)
a reciprocal-inverse counter-part:

Try: P = either P or *-P
___________
for *reciprocal-inverse of P needed (to *negate/annihilate P) (anti-)particulate (-P)

let inf = 0 (folded circle)

P^inf = 0, P
wherein P can be
P or -P
P^inf = 0, (+/-)P

as in:
1^inf = 0, (+/-)1

now try to *remove P:

P^inf *-P = {0, P} -*P
___
wherein *-P can act variably on either infinitude 0 and/or its own inverse P

if: *-P tries to act on P:

P^inf *-P = {0, P} *-P <-*
P^inf *-P = {0, 0}
P^inf = 0, P
____________________

if: *-P tries to act on infinititude:

P^inf *-P = {0, P} *-P
P^inf *-P = {*-P, P}
P^inf = P+ {*-P, P}

it invariably multiplies itself variably into many.

viz.

P is known of but not necessarily known.
P is acknowledged in/as to be (or not to be) in variable (ie. unknown) state: P or -P

P =/= P (not necessarily)
P =(?)= (+/-)P
P = *P
_____
wherein *P is taken as a variable-in-and-of-itself: +P or -P
both/either invariably sharing in the property:
reciprocal-inverse of the other.

which allows for any/all (to-be-discovered) conscious acknowledgement(s) of any/all potential ignorance(s) due to:
i. removal of boundary condition: any/all assumption/presumption relating to P -> P as/for being invariably not necessarily true (due to the variability of P)
ii. any/all belief-based ignorance(s) adopted and sustained indefinitely due to -P = +P (!?) (viz. to believe evil is good)
iii. acknowledges confusion/reconciliation of any/all antithetical dipole relationship(s), including primordial (as necessary).

All knowing is belief(?), but not all belief is knowing.

ABSURD

Believing to know P is-as P, if/when P is-as -P, is
believing to know any/all reciprocal-inverse(s),
as, their reciprocal counter-part,
as in: evil is good (without any need to define either).

Knowing if/when (any/all) P is-as -P thus *not* to believe:
P is-as P, is acknowledgement that P contains a reciprocal-inverse(s)
as their fixed counter-part(s): therefor to try to know
any/all *not* to believe is trying to know all P
which must necessarily involve -P.

All knowing is definitely by way of indefinitely trying any/all belief, but
definitely not any/all belief is by way of indefinitely trying to know all.

Knowing not, to definitely try,
is ignorance-in-and-of-itself, just as
belief-in-and-of-itself is a
problem-in-and-of-itself, rather than a
solution in-and-of-itself.

When any:
problem-in-and-of-itself,
unknowingly (as permissively due to belief-based ignorance(s)),
believes itself to be a
solution in-and-of-itself:
(-P is-as +P)
perpetual conflict.

GENESIS 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Let the confusion stop.