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Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:03 am
by Arising_uk
This is your 2nd amendment yes?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."4

I know the Swiss are but how many gun owners in America are in well regulated militias?

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:32 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Grammatically it's gibberish. It doesn't mean anything.

veg is right: the second is a mess

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:11 pm
by henry quirk
I never make arguments based on it.

I own a gun, it's mine. On the day I deprive another of his life, liberty, or property without justification, folks can gimme grief. Till then: my gun ain't anybody's business.

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:28 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Gee, I wonder where the 'moronic American' 'stereotype' comes from :roll:

back to the penalty box with you

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:58 pm
by henry quirk
:thumbsdown:

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:01 pm
by Impenitent

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:07 am
by Arising_uk
Interesting and pretty much why I prefer us over here not to have a formal written constitution as it's a lawyers charter.

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:36 am
by -1-
Arising_uk wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:03 am This is your 2nd amendment yes?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."4

I know the Swiss are but how many gun owners in America are in well regulated militias?
This is an incredibly good question. I never would have thought to ask, but this is one of the BEST questions to ask an American.

Arising_UK, can you supply some more questions... like why segregation and disadvantaging by race, or by income and asset levels, when everyone is supposed to be on equal footing to chase the blue bird of happiness around... and why execute those in the electric chair who kill by gunfire those who perform abortions, when the first cause of the second killing in this chain of a killing spree is the Commandment, "Do not kill".

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:37 am
by -1-
Double post. Sorry.

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:41 am
by -1-
Arising_uk wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:07 am Interesting and pretty much why I prefer us over here not to have a formal written constitution as it's a lawyers charter.
Isn't the Magna Carta a formal, written Constitution? Just askin'.

Maybe it's not as detailed as the American one, with the Americans' micromanaging themselves by a real work of lawyers. But it's a formal constitution, nevertheless. (As far as I know. But what do I know.)

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:55 pm
by Walker
-1- wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:36 am... like why segregation and disadvantaging by race, or by income and asset levels, when everyone is supposed to be on equal footing to chase the blue bird of happiness around... and why execute those in the electric chair who kill by gunfire those who perform abortions, when the first cause of the second killing in this chain of a killing spree is the Commandment, "Do not kill".
Everyone and Lebron James are on equal footing.

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To be punished for murder is to suffer wrong, not to enjoy right.

Execution is punishment.

Abortion is not punishment.

Abortion is Life-Change Denial.

Those who favour abortion are Life-Change Deniers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:21 am
by -1-
Walker wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:55 pm Execution is punishment.

Abortion is not punishment.

Abortion is Life-Change Denial.
I won't dispute the above. I just want you to pick out those killings in the above list that are compatible with the commandment, "do not kill".

Just giving it a fancy name, does not mean it's not a killing, and therefore not an offence of god's commandment. Because it is.

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:26 am
by -1-
Walker wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:55 pm Execution is punishment.

Abortion is not punishment.

Abortion is Life-Change Denial.
Where does the shooter of the abortion performer fit in? Is it punishment or is it Life-Change Denial? After all, the shooting was not sanctioned by the state.

If the shooter of the abortion-performer is punished by the state, is it not wrong therefore to shoot abortion performers? Would it not be the job of the state to punish them? After all, you get charged for murder if you kill as a vigilante in any circumstance. Capital punishment is reserved for the state to perform, no?

And because the state is separate from the church, does the state employee have the religious sin lifted from him... by what power? The state is not religion. The state has no capacity in religious issues. The executioner offends god's commandment. He will burn in hellfire forever. Who wants that?

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:25 am
by Eodnhoj7
England has a machete attack every 90 seconds...

Re: Just a question to our resident Americans

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:38 am
by Arising_uk
That would be 960 machette attacks a day. :roll: