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On The Moral Necessity of Reducing Everything to Point 0; Philosophy of Desolation

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:02 am
by Eodnhoj7
A general look at any philosophy forum gives a strong impression as to not just a diversity of opinions but an inherent tension and sense of confusion.

Words are reworded into new words, until what was once seen in common becomes obscure.

And this repeats again and again.

A simple proposition can be made and interpreted a myriad of ways.

And those who promote diversity, redefine it to a close minded subjective sense of the word. Diversity becomes: "I am right because I said so, and I exist."

"Use" and "practicality", modern linch pins for most modern viewpoints...dont really mean anything.

Or rather mean to much and take a subjective stance where "I am right because it is useful to me" occurs. This just cycles back to the original problem of a diversity of opinions and sense of confusion.

Oftentimes this pragmaticism is a masking for the viewpoint of the person as a machine, which speaks volumes metaphorically in light of a time where technology is upgraded and replaced continually.

Pragmaticism is thus dead, and is a culturally acceptable way of saying "processing reality".

But we process cattle and throw the scraps in the garbage.

However this "darkness" is not limited to philosophy alone. It manifests itself in various grades and forms. The sciences and religions of the day...hundreds of not thousands of variations.

All of them trying to break everything into bite sized little pieces.

Noone can make a justifiably correct argument, as noone can even make a wrong argument. Say one "fact" and it will be recontextualized as being right or wrong given the volumes of information.

Today's right is tomorrow's wrong.

Noone can be justifiably moral either, as our morality is grounded on the simple question of "how to exist?" and this leads to the problems of the prior points.

Noone is a master, nor can be a master, in an era of sub-sub specialties being the apex of one potential in today's world. Prior to 1600 one could read and master all information presented and make a sizable contribution to society just through "wisdom and understanding" alone.

Today you got several thousands in debt only to make 35,000 as a master of culture "x" history of mathematical sub analysis in the 18th century. This is a humorous example of the truth, but there are so many opinions on what humor is...humor offends everyone now.

Self help does little except help those who sell the books...until they get shelved.

10 minutes of mindfulness a day will not solve the problem either...and neither opening the door for old people.

Get in a relationship and deal with all the people that person has slept with over the past 5 years liking the profile of your girlfriend or boyfriend....just make sure if you get married to have them sign a pre nup first, it is the new "I love you".

Work hard and be processed by a system which will not give you a retirement, or do not work hard and be replaced by someone vying for your job...or just work hard and be replaced anyhow.

Take up a job as be self employed, create a website and sell interesting objects from behind a computer screen...it will help pay for the pain killers to mask the numbing emptiness.

Or take up a cause and try to change the world, like the millions of people out there now are doing trying to upend the other cause.

If that fails posts motivational quotes on Facebook, so you have something to look at while counting your likes for the day. Then throw a uber cool cat meme up...chicks dig cat memes. It gives them something to laugh at while having sex.

Talk about how dark society is becoming and then just sit there an look into space and pat yourself on the back for making a stance...but make sure to pat yourself on the back it is good for your self esteem.

Whatever self esteem is...noone seems to agree...you can take that up as a cause to change the world. Just make sure to attach a label to it, as long as you put a label to it, dont worry about making any changes.

Labels sell and causes are labels.

But what is important is that you go out and change the world, keep changing it...it will speed up the fragmentation quicker. Everyone trying to make the world a better place just speeds up the chaos.

Go be you, as long as others tell you to be it.

But most of all dont bother reading any of this....



Evil exists because of Good, villains because of heroes. Get rid of the good and heroic and evil villains will go.




Get rid of the "good" guys and heros....and everything will be balanced again.

Get rid of the strong and there will be no more weak.

Get rid of the self empowered and there will be no more dominance.

Get rid of the idealist and there will be no more oppressive political systems.

Get rid of virtue and there will be no more vice.

Get rid manager and there will be no more wage slaves.

Get rid of knowledge and there will be no more illusion.

Get rid of entertainment and people will no longer be bored.

Get rid of the computer and people will be able to calculate again.

Get rid of calculation and people's minds will be still.

Control chaos and become chaos, become chaos and be ordered.

Be obscure so noone understand you, not even you...dont even seek self knowledge, nothing is there but an empty hole.

Dont try to fill the empty hole, become it.

Don't be tough, cry all the time until no tears are left.

Become dull and empty and stupid, watch the movements of the world as a child would.

Stop trying to be happy and you will no longer be miserable.







Reduce and reduce again until everything becomes simple, reduce everything to a simple point.

Re: On The Moral Necessity of Reducing Everything to Point 0; Philosophy of Desolation

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:14 am
by Veritas Aequitas
The moral obligation of the individual[s] is to optimize one's and humanity's well being without whatever the necessary tools, knowledge, etc.

There is no absolute obligation to reduce everything to point 0.
If reducing everything to point 0 will contribute to optimize a situation that is positive to all, then we should apply that conditionally.
It would be same for whatever other theories.

As for the idea of God [illusory] it was and still is optimal to believe in an illusory God as real. But the reality is the cons of theism is outweighing its pros as we move into the future and thus there is a need to wean off theism to optimize projected future circumstances.

You whole post is merely another rant that contribute nothing to optimize the well being of humanity.

Re: On The Moral Necessity of Reducing Everything to Point 0; Philosophy of Desolation

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:02 am
by Eodnhoj7
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:14 am The moral obligation of the individual[s] is to optimize one's and humanity's well being without whatever the necessary tools, knowledge, etc.

There is no absolute obligation to reduce everything to point 0.
If reducing everything to point 0 will contribute to optimize a situation that is positive to all, then we should apply that conditionally.
It would be same for whatever other theories.

As for the idea of God [illusory] it was and still is optimal to believe in an illusory God as real. But the reality is the cons of theism is outweighing its pros as we move into the future and thus there is a need to wean off theism to optimize projected future circumstances.

You whole post is merely another rant that contribute nothing to optimize the well being of humanity.
Extremist view that automatically results an antithetical view, thus polarization of view points as well as knowledge.

As an extremist view it is just backing up the point above.

I just said the problem of humanity is it's well being.




0 is the mean between extremes, the center point of beings intrinsic emptiness.