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On impossibility of God
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:32 pm
by bahman
1) God has to be simple otherwise He is subjected to time
2) This, being subjected to time, is impossible though
3) God cannot be simple (God is love, God is Justice, etc.)
4) From (2) and (3) we deduce that God is impossible
First, God is the following things: God is Love, God is Justice, etc. Love however is different from Justice therefore God cannot be simple. This justifies premise (3). This can be only resolved if God is subjected to time, sometimes Love, sometimes Justice, etc. So premise (1) is justified.
Second, God cannot be subjected to time since God has to either wait eternity to create the universe or He comes into existence at a given point. The first case is impossible. The second case also impossible, something cannot comes of out of nothing. So premise (2) is justified.
Re: On impossibility of God
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:35 am
by Age
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:32 pm
1) God has to be simple otherwise He is subjected to time
2) This, being subjected to time, is impossible though
3) God cannot be simple (God is love, God is Justice, etc.)
4) From (2) and (3) we deduce that God is impossible
First, God is the following things: God is Love, God is Justice, etc. Love however is different from Justice therefore God cannot be simple. This justifies premise (3). This can be only resolved if God is subjected to time, sometimes Love, sometimes Justice, etc. So premise (1) is justified.
Second, God cannot be subjected to time since God has to either wait eternity to create the universe or He comes into existence at a given point. The first case is impossible. The second case also impossible, something cannot comes of out of nothing. So premise (2) is justified.
Now, some might say, that those human beings who believe that God is real and exists would say that YOUR argument is not valid and/or not sound, and, that those human beings who believe that God is not real and does not exist would say that YOUR argument is valid and sound.
If that is a sound and valid argument, then all is settled. God is an impossibility.
Would you care to pose the question; Is the above a valid and sound argument?
Re: On impossibility of God
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:56 pm
by bahman
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:35 am
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:32 pm
1) God has to be simple otherwise He is subjected to time
2) This, being subjected to time, is impossible though
3) God cannot be simple (God is love, God is Justice, etc.)
4) From (2) and (3) we deduce that God is impossible
First, God is the following things: God is Love, God is Justice, etc. Love however is different from Justice therefore God cannot be simple. This justifies premise (3). This can be only resolved if God is subjected to time, sometimes Love, sometimes Justice, etc. So premise (1) is justified.
Second, God cannot be subjected to time since God has to either wait eternity to create the universe or He comes into existence at a given point. The first case is impossible. The second case also impossible, something cannot comes of out of nothing. So premise (2) is justified.
Now, some might say, that those human beings who believe that God is real and exists would say that YOUR argument is not valid and/or not sound, and, that those human beings who believe that God is not real and does not exist would say that YOUR argument is valid and sound.
If that is a sound and valid argument, then all is settled. God is an impossibility.
Would you care to pose the question; Is the above a valid and sound argument?
Yes, I would. I would be happy to hear people opinion.