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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:05 pm ?

Discuss.

It depends, are you saying like Buddhism we are all reincarnation so we can learn? And if that is true, then the information we have experienced lived. Should be remembered as we enter our new life. Yet it is not..which makes me feel that in order for us to progress, and understand this information must be contained somewhere, wether that be a higher consciousness or something along them lines. That way we have a reference point and anchor to consult if we are progressing in this journey? It's like DNA, every strand contains the information of our evolution, it changes, to suit the environment we live in. yet it still stores all the previous information from when we were created. so that if that environment was to be experienced again it could adapt back and ensure its survival...it has a reference point to consult... anyway why would we want to be a god?

No, a human being cannot become a god.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:27 pm No, a human being cannot become a god.

Argue why, a simple "no" without a connective to some other argument is not a rational argument as it is none.

In Buddhism, human capacity is required for enlightenment, and enlightenment is the aim. Gods die too, and lack the human capacity for enlightenment.

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:45 pm In Buddhism, human capacity is required for enlightenment, and enlightenment is the aim. Gods die too, and lack the human capacity for enlightenment.

Yes but ,we are judging Buddhism as the only source of information, other religions, beliefs must be taken into consideration. Plus, I know I am going to sound weird, and far fetched, but imagine if we found other alien species society on other worlds, how would there culture beliefs be similar to ours? I think till that happens, we won't have a reference point to compare ours to.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:27 pm No, a human being cannot become a god.

Argue why, a simple "no" without a connective to some other argument is not a rational argument as it is none.

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:27 pm No, a human being cannot become a god.

Argue why, a simple "no" without a connective to some other argument is not a rational argument as it is none.

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Argue why, a simple "no" without a connective to some other argument is not a rational argument as it is none.

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Well I'm sorry to burst your balloon people, but we are a long way from being god's, and to be honest this argument, discussion...hasn't described what is god defined as?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Argue why, a simple "no" without a connective to some other argument is not a rational argument as it is none.

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Your questions are interesting but irrelavent. There is no record of a human being who has died more than once.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Your questions are interesting but irrelavent. There is no record of a human being who has died more than once.

Don't be so narrow minded mate! Most beliefs contain this theory that we come back again, or some type of afterlife, in science this would be called a different state of being...basic rules of physics...energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.

Davyboi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:14 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Well I'm sorry to burst your balloon people, but we are a long way from being god's, and to be honest this argument, discussion...hasn't described what is god defined as?

Can you create, maintain and destroy a phenomenon, whether it be ideological or empirical?

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Mea culpa. Perhaps the following would be clearer: if one must die and die again until one becomes a god through God, then a human being cannot become a god.

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Your questions are interesting but irrelavent. There is no record of a human being who has died more than once.

Uh...near death experiences prove people can bodily die more than once...multiple times actually and that act of death changed these peoples perceptions of the world.

Death is not limited to strict physical means as well. The intellect may die through forgetting or losing a perspective.

Spirtually intuition and feeling may die by being replaced with another means of inutuiting or change of emotional state.

Davyboi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:21 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:08 pm

What if they die ad-infinitum where death effectively means nothing? Are they gods then? What if gods die as well in the same course and manner? Do they become God?

Your questions are interesting but irrelavent. There is no record of a human being who has died more than once.

Don't be so narrow minded mate! Most beliefs contain this theory that we come back again, or some type of afterlife, in science this would be called a different state of being...basic rules of physics...energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.

So, it seems you're saying that if a human being could die more than once, he must do so repeatedly until God makes him a god. Have I got that right for starters?

BTW, don't call me mate and I won't call you chum.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:32 pm

Davyboi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:21 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Your questions are interesting but irrelavent. There is no record of a human being who has died more than once.

Don't be so narrow minded mate! Most beliefs contain this theory that we come back again, or some type of afterlife, in science this would be called a different state of being...basic rules of physics...energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.

So, it seems you're saying that if a human being could die more than once, he must do so repeatedly until God makes him a god. Have I got that right for starters?

BTW, don't call me mate and I won't call you chum.

Lol...I don't mind being called chum..pal
Mmmm, I am saying that we do die, I'm not saying the same human dies and comes back. I'm not saying there is a god that decides,judges that we have made the grade to be one