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Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:00 pm
by Greatest I am
Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” Richard Dawkins.

I say shame on all Christians for not judging justly and being morally corrupt.

I offer as evidence of Yahweh’s corruption one simple fact. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

This is god setting a bribe price to reverse his usual justice of punishing the innocent to punishing the guilty. This shows his moral and ethical corruption. It also show Jesus as just as corrupt as he went along with it.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

What is your judgement?

Regards
DL

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Re: Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:31 pm
by philosopher
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” Richard Dawkins.
Where's the evil in this?

Yes, I am joking... or am I?

I'm quite serious here, as the vast majority of the human population seem to believe that people who are jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully - are good people.

That's why they voted for Trump in the U.S, Erdogan in Turkey, Xi Jinping in China, Hitler in Germany (1930's) and helped Lenin to power in 1917.

It is all part of the human nature.

To the vast majority of the human population on Planet Earth, what you and I consider evil people, the majority considers good people.

Judging by the standards of the God of the Old Testament, and the horrifying pictures from 21st century Syrian gas attacks on civilian population, we're living in Paradise already. At least, for the vast majority of humans.

Science proves that humans are fundamentally bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_ ... nt#Results

Re: Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:23 am
by Greatest I am
philosopher wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:31 pm
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” Richard Dawkins.
Where's the evil in this?

Yes, I am joking... or am I?

I'm quite serious here, as the vast majority of the human population seem to believe that people who are jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully - are good people.

That's why they voted for Trump in the U.S, Erdogan in Turkey, Xi Jinping in China, Hitler in Germany (1930's) and helped Lenin to power in 1917.

It is all part of the human nature.

To the vast majority of the human population on Planet Earth, what you and I consider evil people, the majority considers good people.

Judging by the standards of the God of the Old Testament, and the horrifying pictures from 21st century Syrian gas attacks on civilian population, we're living in Paradise already. At least, for the vast majority of humans.

Science proves that humans are fundamentally bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_ ... nt#Results
We want and idol worship powerful tyrannical gods and political masters. We want security over a moral community. This makes control easier for our oligarch owners to control us. Security over freedom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLLi ... L2LMTRoWlA

This appeases our love of war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIQynsWpBpQ

We thus let that love of war and security subsume our moral sense and look for unsavory men like Trump to guide us and head our religions.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Immoral is as immoral does.

The way things are going though, we will soon start to lead by honor and duty and only bring out the tyrant of law enforcement. That is what Socrates prophesized at any rate and I see things heading that way. Trump will break the camels back.

The left could not have paid for a better wedge.

Regards
DL