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All reality upon closer examination is composed of a points when observing its center.

Upon viewing one point, through closer inspection, the point is composed of further points ad-infinitum.

The point as the foundation of the phenomena extends to other points with all observation of phenomena existing as point through point.

The point contains all and is all.

The point can't be all and also contain all. The only possible location (which is what a point is) is outside of everything else with everything else inside of it. There can't be anything else outside of the point. Not even absolutely nothing. So far, all you have is an infinite regress and a viscous one at that.

Erk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:06 pm The point can't be all and also contain all. The only possible location (which is what a point is) is outside of everything else with everything else inside of it. There can't be anything else outside of the point. Not even absolutely nothing. So far, all you have is an infinite regress and a viscous one at that.

The point as outside everything with everything inside of it effectively observes being as a point itself with the point observing a dualistic nature of 0d (nothing) and 1 dimensional (everything) with no outside to "being" existing considering this is a relativistic statement of "being" relative to "being".

Relative to being alone there is no regress as regress is relative to progress as both exist fundamentally as dual directions of movement where one direction is relative to another. In these respects, from being alone, the extradimensional dual natures of regress and progress occur as extending from intradimensional movement as being directed through itself.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 pm The point as outside everything with everything inside of it effectively observes being as a point itself ...

Yes. the principal principle of existence is a dimensionless point. A location. The location is 'all around' everything else. This might sound like nonsense to most, but it just may be that an abstract world of ideals is what fuels the everyday material world.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 pm Relative to being alone there is no regress as regress is relative to progress as both exist fundamentally as dual directions of movement where one direction is relative to another. In these respects, from being alone, the extradimensional dual natures of regress and progress occur as extending from intradimensional movement as being directed through itself.

I'm sure what you trying to say. If the point didn't have an inside, along with having no outside, it would be alone. It would be the only thing to ever exist. I'm not sure why you're equating regress with progress. The only comparison I can see is that they are opposites.

Erk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:17 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 pm The point as outside everything with everything inside of it effectively observes being as a point itself ...

Yes. the principal principle of existence is a dimensionless point. A location. The location is 'all around' everything else. This might sound like nonsense to most, but it just may be that an abstract world of ideals is what fuels the everyday material world.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 pm Relative to being alone there is no regress as regress is relative to progress as both exist fundamentally as dual directions of movement where one direction is relative to another. In these respects, from being alone, the extradimensional dual natures of regress and progress occur as extending from intradimensional movement as being directed through itself.

I'm sure what you trying to say. If the point didn't have an inside, along with having no outside, it would be alone. It would be the only thing to ever exist. I'm not sure why you're equating regress with progress. The only comparison I can see is that they are opposites.

If only a point existed, if would be viewed as a field considering a point alone its its own field, with this field having infinite limits as no limits. Hence a theoretical 1d point as pure being in which everything was contained, could only be observed as a field without limit.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:19 pm
If only a point existed, if would be viewed as a field considering a point alone its its own field, with this field having infinite limits as no limits. Hence a theoretical 1d point as pure being in which everything was contained, could only be observed as a field without limit.

Good stuff!

Classically of course, a point is merely a location. It has no size including infinite. It isn't a field and doesn't contain one, and there are other points outside of it.

But we're not dealing with a status quo definition of a point. In the abstract I agree that the point contains a limitless infinite field, but at the same time the point is a limit. Infinity always has more infinity beyond itself, but our point has no outside beyond itself.

Erk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:19 pm
If only a point existed, if would be viewed as a field considering a point alone its its own field, with this field having infinite limits as no limits. Hence a theoretical 1d point as pure being in which everything was contained, could only be observed as a field without limit.

Good stuff!

Classically of course, a point is merely a location. It has no size including infinite. It isn't a field and doesn't contain one, and there are other points outside of it.

But we're not dealing with a status quo definition of a point. In the abstract I agree that the point contains a limitless infinite field, but at the same time the point is a limit. Infinity always has more infinity beyond itself, but our point has no outside beyond itself.

If only a point existed, it would become a field with any "line" fundamentally being a negative dimension which seperates it into boundaries.