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For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

PhilX

God is not all-powerful, in that He cannot do anything that contradicts logic. For instance, God cannot make anything that is more powerful than Him or a stone too heavy for Him to move.

My personal belief is that the only True God is not powerful at all. In-fact my God is weak. His power is in his ideas and the humans who carry them forth.

Also, my God has a tendency to die, but can also ressurrect as fast as he's killed. But he is subject to being a scapegoat who's recieving all the beatings and other unfairness, because humans are evil sinners.

My God cannot move a mountain. He needs a lot of help even to exist.

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

I suggest that a living entity who is capable of creating a hundred billion galaxies of suns and planets from the fabric of its very own being...

(in other words, the Creator of all of reality as we understand reality to be – including us)

...should be exempt from being subjected to that ridiculously lame “stone” question.

The so-called paradox implicit in that particular question is nothing more than a play on words that produces the same sort of (useless/meaningless) paradox implicit in this play on words...

The sentence below is true.
The sentence above is false.

...and should never be used in any serious approach to the question of God’s actual abilities.

The ultimate point is that God couldn’t care less whether he could or could not create a stone that he himself cannot lift.

In which case, it is nothing more than the misapplication of a riddle...

(along with an over-reaching assumption of what the word “omnipotent” means)

...that has given rise to a paradox which (hopefully, and in my humble opinion) is laid to rest (resolved) in the above suggestions.
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Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

PhilX

With seeds, I agree that the idiot descriptions of God are pointless. God is indeed "all-powerful" in that God has the power to

...creating a hundred billion galaxies of suns and planets from the fabric of its very own being...

The way I see it, God has made the Universe (and possibly other Universes) and all in it and then "retreated" from this work "to see it unfold".
Thus, I subscribe to the God of Scientific Christian Deism with the Bible as foundation, living it out in God's ways in reality, science describing this.

Compare this to the Devil of vainness who represents all the flaws in humanity and who has created absolutely nothing!

Gods power is only limited by the very source of his existence: Imagination!

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

PhilX

Stone as in the big ball of rock that is the earth itself, yes no one can move it, and yet it moves all by itself, why put another head on your shoulders, be light, and not weigh yourself down with myths like paradoxes ..

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:35 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm For example can He make a stone so heavy that no one can move it, including Himself? To date I don't think anyone has ever resolved this paradox.

PhilX

Stone as in the big ball of rock that is the earth itself, yes no one can move it, and yet it moves all by itself, why put another head on your shoulders, be light, and not weigh yourself down with myths like paradoxes ..

But dam you haven't resolved the paradox. There is no evidence that God has created the Earth, just a fable. And telling me what to do with my time regarding paradoxes is rudeness on your part.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:43 am
But dam you haven't resolved the paradox. There is no evidence that God has created the Earth, just a fable. And telling me what to do with my time regarding paradoxes is rudeness on your part.

PhilX

But it's all fable, so... so what? all words are fictional story telling.

.. no one is being rude except the belief you are placing there, no one else is doing it, if you continue to believe in fables then what can I do about it?

Only you are granting your beliefs into actuality as being real as apposed to the fable they really are.

Get over yourself, try removing the extra head, that may help, there's simply no room in here for two.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:23 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:43 am
But dam you haven't resolved the paradox. There is no evidence that God has created the Earth, just a fable. And telling me what to do with my time regarding paradoxes is rudeness on your part.

PhilX

But it's all fable, so... so what? all words are fictional story telling.

.. no one is being rude except the belief you are placing there, no one else is doing it, if you continue to believe in fables then what can I do about it?

Only you are granting your beliefs into actuality as being real as apposed to the fable they really are.

Get over yourself, try removing the extra head, that may help, there's simply no room in here for two.

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So why should I believe you since it's all fable?

Yes you have been rude to me which I won't let you wriggle out of.

Since it's my thread, then there's no room for you so I suggest you get over yourself, Ms Rudeness.

PhilX

But but there is no evidence that a paradox has been created so what you are babbling on about I have no idea.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:40 pm But but there is no evidence that a paradox has been created so what you are babbling on about I have no idea.

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The paradox is its own evidence.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:43 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:40 pm But but there is no evidence that a paradox has been created so what you are babbling on about I have no idea.

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The paradox is its own evidence.

PhilX

The word paradox is not paradox, it’s a word, and the word is a fable.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:00 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:43 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:40 pm But but there is no evidence that a paradox has been created so what you are babbling on about I have no idea.

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The paradox is its own evidence.

PhilX

The word paradox is not paradox, it’s a word, and the word is a fable.

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Wrong again. Suggest you consult the dictionary.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:17 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:00 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:43 pm

The paradox is its own evidence.

PhilX

The word paradox is not paradox, it’s a word, and the word is a fable.

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Wrong again. Suggest you consult the dictionary.

PhilX

The dictionary is a book of words, words are fables, knowledge is illusory story arising here now nowhere in or from no thing.

The only power here is a causless cause that seems to be.

A source less source is power indeed.

Intimately known via concepts the only knowing there is.

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All else is imagination, or speculation, pure fable.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:26 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:17 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:00 pm

The word paradox is not paradox, it’s a word, and the word is a fable.

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Wrong again. Suggest you consult the dictionary.

PhilX

The dictionary is a book of words, words are fables, knowledge is illusory story arising here now nowhere in or from no thing.

The only power here is a causless cause that seems to be.

A source less source is power indeed.

Intimately known via concepts the only knowing there is.

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All else is imagination, or speculation, pure fable.

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Just because you say it's a fable doesn't make it so. However you've been referred to as a fable so we can safely disregard anything you say as a fable.

PhilX