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Posted: **Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:51 pm**

By this I mean no problems whatsoever (e.g. shriveling up into a grasshopper or being vulnerable to pain or an unstable universe or getting bored).

PhilX

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:23 am**

As an adjunct to the thread, you just gotta find Century Man, a cool sci-fi movie based on an Isaac Asimov short story.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:29 am**

Yes, if there is something meaningful left to do!

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:04 am**

Live forever?

No fuckin' way.

Finitude is integral to human 'living'.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:00 pm**

Yes, if all humankind were also immortal, and there were no problems—as stipulated above—due to overpopulation.

Posted: **Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:16 pm**

I'm with Henry on this, but more so. I think existence is an awful bump in the road between two good nothings.

Having said that, if every preference was met, I'd consider puttering around a bit longer than what we now have. But not immortality.

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 am**

Not in an overpopulated world and this current overcrowded world is rapidly becoming very different to the world into which I was born and have been adapted.

Probably like every generation before I find societies increasingly becoming more crowded, fussy, anal, controlling and argumentative. Overpopulation and overcrowding of humans is disorienting, agitating and frustrating and is the cause of the vast majority of the world's problems - the elephant in the room that almost no politicians or business leaders will even acknowledge as existing about let alone addressing the issues.

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:47 am**

Well, if it is true immortality, I'd eventually live long enough to wish I wasn't alive, due to the poincaré' theorem

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:48 am**

If there was always some new way to have fun and continually become more aware in improving experiences... sure! I could play and explore forever.

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:50 am**

Greta wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 am Not in an overpopulated world and this current overcrowded world is rapidly becoming very different to the world into which I was born and have been adapted.

Probably like every generation before I find societies increasingly becoming more crowded, fussy, anal, controlling and argumentative. Overpopulation and overcrowding of humans is disorienting, agitating and frustrating and is the cause of the vast majority of the world's problems - the elephant in the room that almost no politicians or business leaders will even acknowledge as existing about let alone addressing the issues.

I'm subscribed to Flipboard which covers a wide variety of stories. They get fed from many online websites with stories. Your concern with overpopulation isn't shared by Flipboard as they haven't posted a single story on the subject.

To my knowledge overpopulation seems to be a concern for Asians (i.e, India and China). Again, to my knowledge, it was Malthus who first brought it up. I'd be curious to learn when you consider at what point in history the world first became overpopulated?

PhilX

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:38 am**

A side question. Is giving birth to children a type of immortality?

PhilX

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:52 am**

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:38 am A side question. Is giving birth to children a type of immortality?

PhilX

For the DNA... sort of... until the next mutation. Not for the parents.

As to personal immortality, it would very much depend on circumstances. I wouldn't give up the OFF button.

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:21 pm**

Greta wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 am Not in an overpopulated world and this current overcrowded world is rapidly becoming very different to the world into which I was born and have been adapted.

Probably like every generation before I find societies increasingly becoming more crowded, fussy, anal, controlling and argumentative. Overpopulation and overcrowding of humans is disorienting, agitating and frustrating and is the cause of the vast majority of the world's problems - the elephant in the room that almost no politicians or business leaders will even acknowledge as existing about let alone addressing the issues.

I'd like to make further comment about Flipboard in connection with this. They publish hundreds of stories daily. Never seen any stories about overpopulation, no concerns from politicians nor scientists. With global warming, some stories from time to time (I go back over two years with Flipboard) and the stories are about the loss of ice in Antarctica or Greenland. But do you know what's missing in this equation? No stories about rising sea levels. None. I'd also like to ask you where your greater concern is: with overpopulation or with global warming?

PhilX

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:39 pm**

Death is a state free of all suffering and so is therefore better than immortality for that reason alone
This is why I would not want to live forever since existence cannot be without suffering in some way

Posted: **Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:01 pm**

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:39 pm Death is a state free of all suffering and so is therefore better than immortality for that reason alone
This is why I would not want to live forever since existence cannot be without suffering in some way

How would you know this? Isn't it true your family and friends may suffer after you go?

PhilX

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