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Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:50 am
by Philosophy Explorer
I believe it does. For example I was told that tvs last for over ten years. If you have no urge to replace the tv, then manufacturers and research scientists will have less incentive to develop better tvs. What if the obsolescence period were five years or fifteen years? What would happen then? How about the auto industry with electric vehicles, autonomous cars and hydrogen cars?

PhilX

Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:46 pm
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 10:50 am
I believe it does. For example I was told that tvs last for over ten years. If you have no urge to replace the tv, then manufacturers and research scientists will have less incentive to develop better tvs. What if the obsolescence period were five years or fifteen years? What would happen then? How about the auto industry with electric vehicles, autonomous cars and hydrogen cars?

PhilX
I think it's the other way round, new and better technology makes older technology obsolete. That does not mean that older technology suddenly stops working, it's just that the new technology works better or does more. There are some people who prefer the older technology because it is what they are familiar with.
Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:56 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
thedoc wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 1:46 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 10:50 am
I believe it does. For example I was told that tvs last for over ten years. If you have no urge to replace the tv, then manufacturers and research scientists will have less incentive to develop better tvs. What if the obsolescence period were five years or fifteen years? What would happen then? How about the auto industry with electric vehicles, autonomous cars and hydrogen cars?

PhilX
I think it's the other way round, new and better technology makes older technology obsolete. That does not mean that older technology suddenly stops working, it's just that the new technology works better or does more. There are some people who prefer the older technology because it is what they are familiar with.
To be more precise, sooner or later tvs break down which would need replacement. Some people may grow bored with their devices too. In any case, science researchers are currently trying to improve tv pictures with quantum dot technology.

PhilX

Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:40 pm
by Necromancer
I don't think it is so much than for the very curiosity and a kind of preparation by information serendipity!
You feel inspired by something, you get hunches for stuff to investigate and, hurray, you may have found something that you can call science or technology or so!

Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:21 am
by thedoc
Necromancer wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 2:40 pm
I don't think it is so much than for the very curiosity and a kind of preparation by information serendipity!
You feel inspired by something, you get hunches for stuff to investigate and, hurray, you may have found something that you can call science or technology or so!
PhilX, I see what you mean. Interesting word salad.
Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:46 am
by Philosophy Explorer
thedoc wrote: βThu May 17, 2018 2:21 am
Necromancer wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 2:40 pm
I don't think it is so much than for the very curiosity and a kind of preparation by information serendipity!
You feel inspired by something, you get hunches for stuff to investigate and, hurray, you may have found something that you can call science or technology or so!
PhilX, I see what you mean. Interesting word salad.
Care for some steak smothered by mushrooms and ketchup?

PhilX

Re: Does obsolescence spur scientific advance?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:30 am
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βThu May 17, 2018 2:46 am
thedoc wrote: βThu May 17, 2018 2:21 am
Necromancer wrote: βWed May 16, 2018 2:40 pm
I don't think it is so much than for the very curiosity and a kind of preparation by information serendipity!
You feel inspired by something, you get hunches for stuff to investigate and, hurray, you may have found something that you can call science or technology or so!
PhilX, I see what you mean. Interesting word salad.
Care for some steak smothered by mushrooms and ketchup?

PhilX
Make mine rare and hold the ketchup, or at least put it on the side.
My daughter says that I like to chase my steak across the plate to eat it.