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Because you have forgotten him!

God hasn’t forgotten you; it’s the other way round. You have lost sight of him and now follow false gods — gods of separation, of images and concepts. God is not an image, he doesn’t live in stories and ideas; he is not a man or a woman, not a separate individual at all.
The problem is not that he can’t hear your prayer, but that you pray to this divine entity, your heavenly father, in a language he doesn’t understand. You talk in grammatical structures built on separation, using words like good and bad, you and other, but God doesn’t know these concepts. For God there is only one truth and within this eternal context will you have to address him if you want to be answered.

The language of God is neither English nor Chinese, not German or French — it is wordless, direct and as such without the need for interpretation. God cannot answer your prayers as long as you address him from an imaginary location outside of Him, from a position apparently disconnected from the whole. God means no separation, God means reality and truth, and attempting to pray to Him from the (imaginary) point of the ego disrupts the intimate communication that has already been established, that has always been and that cannot be broken.

A prayer is not a message in a bottle, compiled and carefully wrapped in glass before being sent on a perilous journey, destined to get lost at sea. It is the eternal link between Father and Son, an alliance so close and direct that sender and receiver merge into one. It’s a joining of hands, an intimate connection of equals where time and distance lose all meaning.

Prayer is not a one-way street. It is pure communication between Father and Son, truth in communion with itself. It is the recognition of God’s essence in all things — a recognition that can also be called love. Real prayer is a look, a smell, a sensation, all kept in truth, untouched by dualistic thinking, wrong ideas and belief. You pray when you watch the sunset, when you are joyful without reason, when you give without experiencing the slightest sense of loss.

The recognition of love and as such of your Self is the purpose of prayer — it opens the gates to the infinite storehouse of being that eternally fills itself via giving itself. Prayer is an offering of love to love, a present to itself, and as such the key to heaven. The one key that all of us possess already and that only has to be recognized as such for it to perform its magic and unlock the gateless gates to the place you never left.

Good thread AlexW

I used to have a good quote that would compliment this topic but I can't seem to find it.

It goes something along the lines of...God cannot come to you because he never left you - you left him.

Basically, it's a metaphor for the ABSOLUTE here and now ever shining presence...where nothing can leave or enter, for it is one with itself..and within itself alone every ''thing'' is a perceived object of it's own desire inseparable from source.

No ''object'' can know it knows, an object is already known. When the mind identifies itself as the object, subject and object which are one in the same moment become split off...albeit an illusory split.



So to compliment that comment... here is another quote..

In the Christian Tradition it is held that union with the Absolute is available in all places, at all times, to all peoples, and requires nothing more than 'a change of heart' (metanoia). It is not limited to the philosophically-inclined, or rather 'very great souls' need not be philosophers.

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First let's define God, and then understand should God have the responsibility to answer our prayers, and then come to the conclusion that it should not be God's responsibility to look after us. So then it is our own responsibility to look after ourselves because another should not or we have no power. God's life is God's life and ours is ours. God looks after himself/herself and we should look after ourselves. Scripture says, "Work is worship," let me put the quote so people will understand better - Work is prayer. So then work and it will work as prayer and lessen pain & suffering and resolve problems and make us better people. But no one likes to work often times, the work that must get done, and so we lose in life and invite pain & suffering in the future. Thereby acting as proof that had we worked, pain & suffering of today would not be there. So then work is the prayer to pray, that is what scripture or in other words God says. Another thing, do not bother God, and we will not be bothered either.