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How strong is water?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:58 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Here's a couple of facts for you
Take common table salt (NaCl) or sodium chloride. To break down its ionic bonds, you can apply a temperature of 801°C (which is about 1,500°F) which is enough to melt it.
Now you put the table salt into distilled water at the same pressure at room temperature (about 68°F). This is also enough to break down the bonds by dissolving the salt (through the use of hydrogen bonding).
Two different methods changes the state of the salt by creating freely flowing ions. One method uses far more heat energy than the other. So how much potential energy does water have?
PhilX
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:40 am
by Serendipper
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:58 am
Here's a couple of facts for you
Take common table salt (NaCl) or sodium chloride. To break down its ionic bonds, you can apply a temperature of 801°C (which is about 1,500°F) which is enough to melt it.
Now you put the table salt into distilled water at the same pressure at room temperature (about 68°F). This is also enough to break down the bonds by dissolving the salt (through the use of hydrogen bonding).
Two different methods changes the state of the salt by creating freely flowing ions. One method uses far more heat energy than the other. So how much potential energy does water have?
PhilX
Heat is essentially trying to vibrate the NaCl apart, which is an inefficient use of energy. It would be better if the proper frequency of EM radiation were used as it would take far less energy over time to shatter the molecule, but no guarantee the molecule wouldn't reform immediately after.
Water, on the other hand, neutralizes the charge that ionically bonds Na and Cl, allowing it to easily pull the elements apart. So it's not really about energy, but energy used in the most efficient way.
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:44 am
by gaffo
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:58 am
Here's a couple of facts for you
Take common table salt (NaCl) or sodium chloride. To break down its ionic bonds, you can apply a temperature of 801°C (which is about 1,500°F) which is enough to melt it.
Now you put the table salt into distilled water at the same pressure at room temperature (about 68°F). This is also enough to break down the bonds by dissolving the salt (through the use of hydrogen bonding).
Two different methods changes the state of the salt by creating freely flowing ions. One method uses far more heat energy than the other. So how much potential energy does water have?
PhilX
not sure the intent of you thread, but to continue it, water "should boil" at minus 200 like all other light compounds (methene/h2s, ammonia/etc).
due to the unique nature of H2O having a "bend" in the molecule - it is a liquid/solid 200 degrees higher than it "should" be.
from being here 6 months, i think you may attribute that is "God". thats ok by me.
not a Beleiver, but whatever floats your boat,
water is unique for whatever reason.
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:49 am
by Greta
Water is exceptionally strong!
Water, both in liquid form and as glaciers, shapes continents, sculpting mountain ranges and valleys.
Water moving at 4kph has the same force as air moving at 100kph.
Water can be used as a layer outside of spacecraft, being amongst the most effective known shields from radiation.
Hitting still water form a height is almost akin to falling on concrete due to surface tension.
The industrial age was made possible by the power of steam.
Water can give or take life.
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:44 am
by gaffo
indeed water is life!
I do beleive this is unversal.
no water no life - anywhere.
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:45 am
by gaffo
this of course means "goldi-locks"/"habitable zones" apply.
Re: How strong is water?
Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:25 pm
by Beauty
I don't remember much of all that NaCl and H2O and stuff but am just focusing on your topic - how strong is water? Water is very strong. It has lots of minerals, strength, power and it is life. Water has calcium, sulphur etc. Water is also food, however we do need solid food. A flood. Now you know the strength and power water packs in itself.
