Methodology
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am
Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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Psychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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What methods do they use in their work? How predictable is their work in saying how someone will behave? How much do psychiatrists rely on opinion when they do their studies? When violent prisoners are turned loose on society, how often do they go back to doing crimes? Have child molesters ever been cured of their urges to repeat their crimes?-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 amPsychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
I actually asked what methodology they used in their work, because that's what you were hung up about initially. "Their methodology is often up to question." Then you explained their methods. I asked you about their methodology.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 9:58 amWhat methods do they use in their work?-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 amPsychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
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I'm sure you've heard of synonyms.-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 10:26 amI actually asked what methodology they used in their work, because that's what you were hung up about initially. "Their methodology is often up to question." Then you explained their methods. I asked you about their methodology.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 9:58 amWhat methods do they use in their work?-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 am
Psychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.
I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
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What's the difference between method and methodology? Same as between meth and methadone?
They must mean different things, otherwise they would be called the same. But one is called method, the other, methodology.
So what questions often come up with regard to METHODOLY, not with regard to METHOD. Thanks. (If you feel like please answer it... not the end of the world if you don't answer it.)
Psychiatric research is concentrated on chemical experiments on lab rats, and then on people. Opinion plays little role in the lab rat experiments, I would suspect.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 9:58 am What methods do they use in their work? How predictable is their work in saying how someone will behave? How much do psychiatrists rely on opinion when they do their studies? When violent prisoners are turned loose on society, how often do they go back to doing crimes? Have child molesters ever been cured of their urges to repeat their crimes?
How do we know that psychiatrists are objective in their work? If not, then their research doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
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Admit that you don't know the difference between the proper usage of "method" and "methodology". I don't use "methodology" because I know that I don't know what it means. It is an expression used in pedagogy, or so it seems to me, but I don't know what they mean by it.
Here's my online dictionary's definition:-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 amPsychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
Yes, that's pretty clear. Does it have to be a methodical system of methods used in a particular area of study or activity?Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 amHere's my online dictionary's definition:-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 amPsychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 2:04 am Why are psychiatrists classified as doctors since psychiatrists methodology are often open to question?
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I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
"a system of methods used in a particular area of study or activity." Clear enough to me.
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No, it is not well known.Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 10:56 am -1- wrote:
"Psychiatric research is concentrated on chemical experiments on lab rats, and then on people. Opinion plays little role in the lab rat experiments, I would suspect."
"Lab rats." Give me a break. It's well known in science how unreliable those experiments are in predicting human behavior. No mention of human clinical trials?
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What do you mean "we"? You and I? or we as humanity?Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 11:01 am -1- wrote:
"Psychiatrists' work is somewhat predictive, although not on an individual basis, but on a mass scale. They will stay with precise accuracy things like (as an example) "out of 1000 schizophrenics 14.8 will commit suicide by age 28", although they will be hard pressed to point at WHICH individual ones of the 1000 in the initial sample will be the ones to kill themselves."
So how do we determine who to let loose upon society?
What's the point to psychiatry then?
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You're getting hung up a bit on the semantics. It could be individual or combined, that's what's important. Whatever works in the training. (you may not know that I've successfully conducted an experiment in sales with a very small sample during my career).-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 11:22 amYes, that's pretty clear. Does it have to be a methodical system of methods used in a particular area of study or activity?Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 amHere's my online dictionary's definition:-1- wrote: βTue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 am
Psychiatrists are doctors because they need to get a medical doctorate before they can specialize in psychiatry.
I don't know what you mean by "psychiatrists' methodology (is) often open to question". What methodology? What question? Can you name up to five such questions? Psychiatrists do do research and base their work on that, much like scientists in any other branch of medicine or science.
"a system of methods used in a particular area of study or activity." Clear enough to me.
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For instance, training a runner. One method is to make him do squats. The other method is to make him do many short sprints. Another method is to make him run for very long distances.
If you combine these three methods, meaning, you apply all three in the training of the runner, is that a methodology, or a method that combines and involves three other methods?
This is an important question to answer, PhilX us.