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Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:25 am
by Philosophy Explorer
explicitly and implicitly?
It's common knowledge that drinking and drugging can lead to killing. I contend that those activities increases the likelihood of it happening, but I also contend that killing/murder may still happen without those activities.
Another reason I offer is that eating, through the food chain, leads to killing and is inevitable. So get used to it.
PhilX
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:02 am
by Harbal
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:25 am
explicitly and
implicitly?
It's common knowledge that drinking and drugging can lead to killing. I contend that those activities increases the likelihood of it happening, but I also contend that killing/murder may still happen without those activities.
Another reason I offer is that eating, through the food chain, leads to killing and is inevitable. So get used to it.
PhilX
Okay, Phil, I'm going to start working on learning to live with that right away.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:07 am
by Necromancer
You may want to get more informed, PhilX.
Consider these cases:
Humanistic, vet approved slaughter of cattle etc.
Torture to death cases of animals.
Torture to death cases of people, all from infants, children, adolescents, adults and elderly.
By corruption of systems, hunger death to people, most typically in Africa.
The ordinary hunting of animals in nature by shotguns, rifles.
(Other? I'm sure there should be more to mention, but for now I'm at the end.)

Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:46 am
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:25 am
Another reason I offer is that eating, through the food chain, leads to killing and is inevitable. So get used to it.
PhilX
All life depends on killing to survive, Get used to it.
When I was young we raised rabbits, it was assigned to my brother and I to kill and butcher the rabbits when they got big enough to eat. We did and I learned our place on the food chain. It doesn't matter whether you are killing an animal or a plant, it's all killing.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:42 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Not overlooking the women (who might be more dangerous than the men):
https://the-line-up.com/9-female-serial-killers
Also I believe more women than men prepare meals.
PhilX
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:20 pm
by Harbal
What's the thinking behind this thread, Phil, what are you trying to establish?
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:32 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:20 pm
What's the thinking behind this thread, Phil, what are you trying to establish?
That we all kill, we shouldn't be shocked that killing always happens under different circumstances, that anyone who accuses others of killing and murdering are hypocrites, etc.
PhilX
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:46 pm
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:42 am
Also I believe more women than men prepare meals.
PhilX
I agree that usually it is the woman preparing the meal in the home but in restaurants men are usually the chef, why is that? Could it be the traditional roles of the man and the woman? The man usually has a job to earn a living including being a chef and the woman usually takes care of the home including preparing the meals, I understand that those roles are changing. Does anyone have the figures of the total number of meals prepared both in the home and in restaurants by men and the number prepared by women? or how would I look that up? All I've found so far are statistics of cooking in the home.
Also in a restaurant a man usually does the cooking and women serve the food, why is that?
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:10 pm
by thedoc
Necromancer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:07 am
(Other? I'm sure there should be more to mention, but for now I'm at the end.)
Neocromancer, look up "partial birth abortion" if you want to really be grossed out, just remember once you read about it you can't "un-see" it, you have been warned.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:35 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:13 pm
by thedoc
I've seen both articles and unfortunately they both focus on preparing meals in the home and don't include meals in a restaurant.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:17 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
thedoc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:13 pm
I've seen both articles and unfortunately they both focus on preparing meals in the home and don't include meals in a restaurant.
Why bother with restaurants? For every restaurant, there must be a thousand homes.
PhilX
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:02 pm
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:17 pm
thedoc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:13 pm
I've seen both articles and unfortunately they both focus on preparing meals in the home and don't include meals in a restaurant.
Why bother with restaurants? For every restaurant, there must be a thousand homes.
PhilX
Because men are usually preparing the meal in a restaurant and a chef in a restaurant will prepare thousands of meals, compared to preparing a few meals at mealtime in a home. My son does the cooking in his home, my ex-son-in-law cooks in a restaurant and prepares many times more meals than my son, even when my son has a large get-together at his home.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:06 pm
by Harbal
thedoc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:02 pm
Because men are usually preparing the meal in a restaurant and a chef in a restaurant will prepare thousands of meals, compared to preparing a few meals at mealtime in a home. My son does the cooking in his home, my ex-son-in-law cooks in a restaurant and prepares many times more meals than my son, even when my son has a large get-together at his home.
I sometimes wonder just how mundane philosophy can get.
Re: Aren't we all killers...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:09 pm
by thedoc
Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:06 pm
I sometimes wonder just how mundane philosophy can get.
"You ain't seen nothin' yet."