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Why don't you take it up with Thomas Jefferson in your latest fantasy:Philosophy Explorer wrote:In the US, there is separation of church and state which isn't absolute.
But what about absolute separation?bobevenson wrote:Why don't you take it up with Thomas Jefferson in your latest fantasy:Philosophy Explorer wrote:In the US, there is separation of church and state which isn't absolute.
"Separation of church and state" is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper. Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." -wikipedia
And what about the rest of the world, or don't you care?bobevenson wrote:I believe Thomas Jefferson and the First Amendment covers that point quite well.
The rest of the world can go to hell until the AEP takes over!Philosophy Explorer wrote:And what about the rest of the world, or don't you care?bobevenson wrote:I believe Thomas Jefferson and the First Amendment covers that point quite well. The day the government establishes the Church of America like that goddamn Church of England (they don't have the first or second amendment, those poor bastards), that will be a horse of a different color!
You heard it here first folks.bobevenson wrote:The rest of the world can go to hell until the AEP takes over!Philosophy Explorer wrote:And what about the rest of the world, or don't you care?bobevenson wrote:I believe Thomas Jefferson and the First Amendment covers that point quite well. The day the government establishes the Church of America like that goddamn Church of England (they don't have the first or second amendment, those poor bastards), that will be a horse of a different color!
Treatiesbobevenson wrote:Let me know where the U.S. Constitution says anything about the rest of the world.
Treaties are to get what we want from other countries!Philosophy Explorer wrote:Treatiesbobevenson wrote:Let me know where the U.S. Constitution says anything about the rest of the world.
That's got nothing to do with churches like your stupid Church of England, you wanker!Hobbes' Choice wrote:One Nation under god...
In god we trust.
Who the fuck are you guys kidding?
"... other countries!"bobevenson wrote:Treaties are to get what we want from other countries!Philosophy Explorer wrote:Treatiesbobevenson wrote:Let me know where the U.S. Constitution says anything about the rest of the world.
Then that would be your focus. Even in that case, other countries is part of your sentence which is then referring to the rest of the world. So duh, that is part of the Constitution by inference.bobevenson wrote:The emphasis is on treaties, getting what we want, not on other countries!