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We often hear when they're false. If there are any true stereotypes, then what are some examples and what makes them true?

PhilX

They all are. That's how they become stereotypes.

Philosophy Explorer wrote:We often hear when they're false. If there are any true stereotypes, then what are some examples and what makes them true?

PhilX

Purportedly Bose provides a very true sound.

None are true - that's why they are called stereotypes.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:None are true - that's why they are called stereotypes.

What a surprise.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:None are true - that's why they are called stereotypes.

What a surprise.

Oh you 'educated' types ignoring the word on the street. BOSE are clad to the ear bruva.

For those that are ignorant, here's my online dictionary definition:

"a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."

Doesn't say nor imply whether the idea is true nor false. Try again.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:For those that are ignorant, here's my online dictionary definition:

"a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."

Doesn't say nor imply whether the idea is true nor false. Try again.

PhilX

OFFS

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:For those that are ignorant, here's my online dictionary definition:

"a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."

Doesn't say nor imply whether the idea is true nor false. Try again.

PhilX

OFFS

You're doing better than VT. She doesn't have an "O" in hers.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:For those that are ignorant, here's my online dictionary definition:

"a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."

Doesn't say nor imply whether the idea is true nor false. Try again.

PhilX

OFFS

You're doing better than VT. She doesn't have an "O" in hers.

PhilX

How can such a thing be true of false. There are examples which more of less reflect people. But as each person in the world is of necessity unique stereotypes are for racists, and other forms of morons who what to be able to put people in boxes so they can deal with them with safe and easy doses of prejudice.
You might as well ask if any abstract noun is true or false. Can't you see why this is absurd?

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
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You're doing better than VT. She doesn't have an "O" in hers.

PhilX

How can such a thing be true of false. There are examples which more of less reflect people. But as each person in the world is of necessity unique stereotypes are for racists, and other forms of morons who what to be able to put people in boxes so they can deal with them with safe and easy doses of prejudice.
You might as well ask if any abstract noun is true or false. Can't you see why this is absurd?

To me, there's a close tie-in to PC because my understanding is there can be positive stereotypes. In the press, all I see reported are negative stereotypes (e.g. all blondes are dumb) which certainly isn't true in the example I've just given. So my challenge remains: can you supply an example of a positive stereotype?

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
You're doing better than VT. She doesn't have an "O" in hers.

PhilX

How can such a thing be true of false. There are examples which more of less reflect people. But as each person in the world is of necessity unique stereotypes are for racists, and other forms of morons who what to be able to put people in boxes so they can deal with them with safe and easy doses of prejudice.
You might as well ask if any abstract noun is true or false. Can't you see why this is absurd?

To me, there's a close tie-in to PC because my understanding is there can be positive stereotypes. In the press, all I see reported are negative stereotypes (e.g. all blondes are dumb) which certainly isn't true in the example I've just given. So my challenge remains: can you supply an example of a positive stereotype?

PhilX

One man's negative is another's positive and vice versa. Black people are good at sport. This sounds like a positive stereotype; but this, of course implies that they are less likely to be good at science or other more cerebral pursuits.
Another one is black's have a great sense of rhythm.
Where are the white guy stereotypes?
Stereotypes build prejudice.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
How can such a thing be true of false. There are examples which more of less reflect people. But as each person in the world is of necessity unique stereotypes are for racists, and other forms of morons who what to be able to put people in boxes so they can deal with them with safe and easy doses of prejudice.
You might as well ask if any abstract noun is true or false. Can't you see why this is absurd?

To me, there's a close tie-in to PC because my understanding is there can be positive stereotypes. In the press, all I see reported are negative stereotypes (e.g. all blondes are dumb) which certainly isn't true in the example I've just given. So my challenge remains: can you supply an example of a positive stereotype?

PhilX

One man's negative is another's positive and vice versa. Black people are good at sport. This sounds like a positive stereotype; but this, of course implies that they are less likely to be good at science or other more cerebral pursuits.
Another one is black's have a great sense of rhythm.
Where are the white guy stereotypes?
Stereotypes build prejudice.

Or maybe prejudice builds stereotypes. How stereotypes come about can lead to a great discussion. I think one of the main reasons for stereotypes, true or otherwise, is due to fear or security reasons. Some stereotypes are patently ridiculous. Another good question is if a stereotype is proven to be true does it remain a stereotype?

PhilX

Stereotypes are a more extreme version of generalisations. And while they may have some basis
in truth they should not actually be taken seriously. Unlike generalisations they are supposed to
apply to all members of a particular demographic. Though the larger it is the less likely they do

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
To me, there's a close tie-in to PC because my understanding is there can be positive stereotypes. In the press, all I see reported are negative stereotypes (e.g. all blondes are dumb) which certainly isn't true in the example I've just given. So my challenge remains: can you supply an example of a positive stereotype?

PhilX

One man's negative is another's positive and vice versa. Black people are good at sport. This sounds like a positive stereotype; but this, of course implies that they are less likely to be good at science or other more cerebral pursuits.
Another one is black's have a great sense of rhythm.
Where are the white guy stereotypes?
Stereotypes build prejudice.

Or maybe prejudice builds stereotypes. How stereotypes come about can lead to a great discussion. I think one of the main reasons for stereotypes, true or otherwise, is due to fear or security reasons. Some stereotypes are patently ridiculous. Another good question is if a stereotype is proven to be true does it remain a stereotype?

PhilX

Stereotypes are not "True". When they are "proven" true, people start building gas chambers.
Can you think of any white stereotypes?