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All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:40 pm
by bobevenson
The legal system is one of the functions of government, and any expenses thereof are properly defrayed by the government. That means that the government must supply all the attorneys, and there are no filing expenses or charges of any kind to the people or businesses using the system.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:32 pm
by henry quirk
So, under your scheme, am I allowed to seek out, and pay for, my own lawyer, or (heaven forbid!) defend or serve myself?
If yes, then great.
If no, then how is your scheme any better than those promoted by the commie scum who people this forum?
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:41 pm
by Immanuel Can
henry quirk wrote:So, under your scheme, am I allowed to seek out, and pay for, my own lawyer, or (heaven forbid!) defend or serve myself?
If yes, then great.
If no, then how is your scheme any better than those promoted by the commie scum who people this forum?
Oh, no, Henry...his idea is MUCH better than that...it's that "the government," meaning the taxes YOU pay, will soak up all the costs of a glutted legal profession PLUS remove any cost to people -- whether genuine litigants or frivolous idiots -- for activating that system.
Not only that, but since everything goes to "the government," the government itself has to invent an additional, expensive, bloated bureaucracy in order to keep the lawyers and litigants from using the legal system to tap into this vast pool of public money. Absent that, lawyers and litigants would set their own fees and settlements at any level they wish, and again, your tax dollars would pay for it, unless the government capped all such things and enforced the cap rigorously...creating all kinds of injustices in the process, of course.
In other words, it means, "sue anyone you want, and make everybody else pay for it."
Still willing to say, "Great"?

Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:09 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
I know the first use of this. I would sue the AEP for politically incorrect statements.
PhilX
"I would sue the AEP for politically incorrect statements."
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:05 pm
by henry quirk
HA!
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"sue anyone you want, and make everybody else pay for it."
The hell you say!
Is this what you promote, Bob?
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:12 pm
by Harbal
bobevenson wrote:The legal system is one of the functions of government, and any expenses thereof are properly defrayed by the government. That means that the government must supply all the attorneys, and there are no filing expenses or charges of any kind to the people or businesses using the system.
In principle, you're right, but in practice it wouldn't work.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:27 pm
by bobevenson
Harbal wrote:bobevenson wrote:The legal system is one of the functions of government, and any expenses thereof are properly defrayed by the government. That means that the government must supply all the attorneys, and there are no filing expenses or charges of any kind to the people or businesses using the system.
In principle, you're right, but in practice it wouldn't work.
In practice it would work perfectly because the AEP knows exactly how it should be handled. First of all, an independent government-appointed agency determines if an issue will even be accepted for adjudication. If accepted, neutral agency attorneys litigate the proceedings before a professional jury. You don't have biased lawyers paid for by opposing parties, and juries composed of every Tom, Dick and Harry off the street. All judicial decisions are automatically reviewed through an appeal system. The present system is a bad joke and a mockery of justice. And it doesn't matter how much the AEP system costs because you can't put a price tag on justice.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:52 am
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:... before a professional jury. ...
Based on what criteria?
All judicial decisions are automatically reviewed through an appeal system. ...
That'll be with another 'professional jury' would it. What happened to the first one?
The present system is a bad joke and a mockery of justice. ...
Well your country's certainly seems to be.
And it doesn't matter how much the AEP system costs because you can't put a price tag on justice.
Oo! No, I think you'll find it really does matter when it comes to the voters voting for this fictional AEP of yours.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:18 pm
by bobevenson
Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:08 pm
by Londoner
bobevenson wrote:Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Do you normally write in a large font and in bold because of eye problems? Or some other reason? I ask because it comes across as if you are permanently angry, so if there is some other reason it would be a good idea to say, so people do not misunderstand your intention.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:13 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Londoner wrote:bobevenson wrote:Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Do you normally write in a large font and in bold because of eye problems? Or some other reason? I ask because it comes across as if you are permanently angry, so if there is some other reason it would be a good idea to say, so people do not misunderstand your intention.
The only thing blind about him is his brain.
PhilX
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:23 pm
by bobevenson
Londoner wrote:bobevenson wrote:Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Do you normally write in a large font and in bold because of eye problems? Or some other reason? I ask because it comes across as if you are permanently angry, so if there is some other reason it would be a good idea to say, so people do not misunderstand your intention.
Why don't you ask your stupid fucking question to Arising? And then feel free to ask me any stupid fucking question about this thread.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:39 pm
by Londoner
bobevenson wrote:Londoner wrote:bobevenson wrote:Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Do you normally write in a large font and in bold because of eye problems? Or some other reason? I ask because it comes across as if you are permanently angry, so if there is some other reason it would be a good idea to say, so people do not misunderstand your intention.
Why don't you ask your stupid fucking question to Arising? And then feel free to ask me any stupid fucking question about this thread.
Thank you for answering my question so clearly.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:51 pm
by bobevenson
You're visually the direct opposite of Arising, but equally stupid.
Re: All Legal Expenses Should Be Paid for by the Government
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:58 pm
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:Please, take your 200 point type and shove it up your 300 point ass!
Whoosh! Zoom!! The irony bird has brought a jet engine!!!