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The one that knows God does not exist because the knower is the known, but the known cannot know the knower.

The knower is the empty zero point centre of everything.

That knowing is here right now eternally. This is known. No one knows this.

There is no God and S/he's always with you.

You cannot approach God through religion. Religion is known, but the known cannot know the knower.

Everything revolves around the empty zero point of the knowing creator.

There is only one place to look for God:
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." Revelation 17:17 (a description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns in chapter and verse)

bobevenson wrote:There is only one place to look for God:
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." Revelation 17:17 (a description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns in chapter and verse)

The Heart, not the mind, is the centre of a human being considered as a whole electromagnetic quantum system. Modern psychology and philosophy has failed to explore the psychology of the heart and therefore is faced with such enigmas as to how and where the brain is producing consciousness.

The heart is this self-evident luminous self-shining consciousness...aka LIGHT
As there is no other consciousness to know it, it is consciousness.

''Speak to us of Self-Knowledge.'' And he (the prophet) answered, saying:
''Your hearts know in silence the secrets of the days and the nights.
But your ears thirst for the sound of your heart’s knowledge.''
Kahil Gibran, The Prophet




''The mind and the breath spring from the same source. They arise in the heart, which is the centre of the self-luminous Self. ... Where the ‘I’ thought has vanished, there the true Self shines as ‘I.’ ‘I’ in the heart. ... The ‘I,’ the Self, alone is real.'' ~Ramana Maharshi

From belief to clarity.

Dontaskme wrote:

bobevenson wrote:There is only one place to look for God:
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." -Revelation 17:17 (a description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns in chapter and verse)

The Heart, not the mind, is the centre of a human being...

It is our institutions that prevent God's will from reaching our minds (see "The Ouzo Prophecy" at http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf).

This actually makes your philosophical views clearer. They're all an elaborate ad-hoc justification of your attitude that the world revolves around you, probably in reaction to your parents telling you that it doesn't.

Terrapin Station wrote:This actually makes your philosophical views clearer. They're all an elaborate ad-hoc justification of your attitude that the world revolves around you, probably in reaction to your parents telling you that it doesn't.

Let's put it this way, I'm a divinely inspired prophet with mystical credentials, unlike any other self-proclaimed prophet on Earth.

bobevenson wrote:

Terrapin Station wrote:This actually makes your philosophical views clearer. They're all an elaborate ad-hoc justification of your attitude that the world revolves around you, probably in reaction to your parents telling you that it doesn't.

Let's put it this way, I'm a divinely inspired prophet with mystical credentials, unlike any other self-proclaimed prophet on Earth.

I was actually addressing DontAskMe.

Dontaskme wrote:The Heart, not the mind, is the centre of a human being considered as a whole electromagnetic quantum system. Modern psychology and philosophy has failed to explore the psychology of the heart

How would you explain the lack of significant psychological changes after heart transplants?

Terrapin Station wrote:This actually makes your philosophical views clearer. They're all an elaborate ad-hoc justification of your attitude that the world revolves around you, probably in reaction to your parents telling you that it doesn't.

Can you make sure you use quote box of who you are replying to. It would help.

The OP was pointing to an assumption there is a 'me' here to whom the world is centring around.

There is no 'me' in the centre. It's empty. But is believed to contain 'me' or 'you'

This whole world appearance revolves around an empty centre. For the centre is everywhere and everything. And 'me' or 'you' is an appearance in it.

bobevenson wrote:I don't know what others mean by the "heart," but its meaning in Revelation 17:17 is allegorical.

Thank-you Bob.

Everything spoken about God is allegorical or metaphor. Since, Real can neither be spoken nor written. Only the illusory is spoken and written. When you live you do not think. When you think you do not live. Mind is thought. But God is not a thought.God is tacit.

I'm guessing the heart means the zero point from which everything is known..albeit illusory. God is a fictional character, appearing real.

Terrapin Station wrote:

Dontaskme wrote:The Heart, not the mind, is the centre of a human being considered as a whole electromagnetic quantum system. Modern psychology and philosophy has failed to explore the psychology of the heart

How would you explain the lack of significant psychological changes after heart transplants?

I'm not talking about a piece of meat, although sound does affect the meat.

Dontaskme wrote:

Terrapin Station wrote:

Dontaskme wrote:The Heart, not the mind, is the centre of a human being considered as a whole electromagnetic quantum system. Modern psychology and philosophy has failed to explore the psychology of the heart

How would you explain the lack of significant psychological changes after heart transplants?

I'm not talking about a piece of meat, although sound does affect the meat.

If you're not referring to the organ by "heart," what are you referring to?

Terrapin Station wrote:

Dontaskme wrote:

Terrapin Station wrote:How would you explain the lack of significant psychological changes after heart transplants?

I'm not talking about a piece of meat, although sound does affect the meat.

If you're not referring to the organ by "heart," what are you referring to?

The knowing centre of knowledge, the heart of the matter.