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Albert Einstein

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:08 am
by mtmynd1
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:14 am
by Walker
Knowledge exists in manifestation.

Imagination exists in infinite potentiality, as do thoughts.


Knowledge of imagination is a word game, as are thoughts of knowledge.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:38 pm
by HexHammer
Both are important, imagination without knowledge is useless, knowledge without imagination is limiting.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:08 am
by prothero
HexHammer wrote:Both are important, imagination without knowledge is useless, knowledge without imagination is limiting.
Sounds a lot like Einstein’s “Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame” comment. Anyway the development of new scientific theories requires creativity and imagination. If one is confined purely to current accepted theory or knowledge nothing new can be achieved. Most accomplishments require both familiarity with the field or subject and novel ways of viewing them.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:19 am
by HexHammer
prothero wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Both are important, imagination without knowledge is useless, knowledge without imagination is limiting.
Sounds a lot like Einstein’s “Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame” comment. Anyway the development of new scientific theories requires creativity and imagination. If one is confined purely to current accepted theory or knowledge nothing new can be achieved. Most accomplishments require both familiarity with the field or subject and novel ways of viewing them.
I base it on a past working life where "stiffies" only sees money and results, not the coming crisis, because they lack understanding of competetors that are coming or underdeveloped working areas, etc.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:42 am
by surreptitious57
prothero wrote:
the development of new scientific theories requires creativity and imagination. If one is
confined purely to current accepted theory or knowledge nothing new can be achieved
Yes and that is what Einstein was referring to with regard to the comment he made
It was his imagination that allowed him to develop the Theory Of Special Relativity

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:32 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
surreptitious57 wrote:
prothero wrote:
the development of new scientific theories requires creativity and imagination. If one is
confined purely to current accepted theory or knowledge nothing new can be achieved
Yes and that is what Einstein was referring to with regard to the comment he made
It was his imagination that allowed him to develop the Theory Of Special Relativity
Hmm. His 'imagination' PLUS everything he'd learnt.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:00 am
by HexHammer
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:Yes and that is what Einstein was referring to with regard to the comment he made
It was his imagination that allowed him to develop the Theory Of Special Relativity
Hmm. His 'imagination' PLUS everything he'd learnt.
True, if Einstein grew up in the rain forest, he wouldn't be able to make his SRT, even tho he would have had the same amount of imagination, so knowledge is very important too.

Einstein never made the brightest of claims outside of physics.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:08 am
by ken
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
prothero wrote:
the development of new scientific theories requires creativity and imagination. If one is
confined purely to current accepted theory or knowledge nothing new can be achieved
Yes and that is what Einstein was referring to with regard to the comment he made
It was his imagination that allowed him to develop the Theory Of Special Relativity
Hmm. His 'imagination' PLUS everything he'd learnt.
Imagination comes from the open Mind.

Knowledge comes from the brain.

Using imagination FIRST is needed to see newer or further things, and then he and we can use our already learned knowledge to verify its correctness.

Looking from the open Mind, where imagination exists, is more important than looking from the brain, where limited and limiting knowledge exists.

Obviously we can not discover newer and further knowledge from the knowledge that we have already gained, so it is far more important to learning to use the limitless imagination.

Einstein did not have more intelligence than any other human being. Einstein just used imagination first to look at the "world", prior to looking from his already gained limited knowledge.

What knowledge we already have and know is far too limiting to see the Universe the way It truly is.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:15 am
by surreptitious57
HexHammer wrote:
if Einstein grew up in the rain forest he would not be able to make his SRT even though
he would have had the same amount of imagination so knowledge is very important too
Yes of course as imagination and knowledge complement each other. Knowledge to understand
what is already known. And then imagination to acquire new knowledge which is not yet known

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:41 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
ken wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote: Yes and that is what Einstein was referring to with regard to the comment he made
It was his imagination that allowed him to develop the Theory Of Special Relativity
Hmm. His 'imagination' PLUS everything he'd learnt.
Imagination comes from the open Mind.

Knowledge comes from the brain.

Using imagination FIRST is needed to see newer or further things, and then he and we can use our already learned knowledge to verify its correctness.

Looking from the open Mind, where imagination exists, is more important than looking from the brain, where limited and limiting knowledge exists.

Obviously we can not discover newer and further knowledge from the knowledge that we have already gained, so it is far more important to learning to use the limitless imagination.

Einstein did not have more intelligence than any other human being. Einstein just used imagination first to look at the "world", prior to looking from his already gained limited knowledge.

What knowledge we already have and know is far too limiting to see the Universe the way It truly is.
I'm one of the few people who don't think Einstein was necessarily the fountain of knowlege for everything under the Sun. 'God' came from someone's active imagination in the distant past. We have learnt a lot since then. What were once 'sea monsters' we now know as 'giant squid', an intelligent and fascinating part of the natural world. You would think we would have grown up by now. Sadly, that's not the case.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:50 am
by Hobbes' Choice
ken wrote:
Einstein did not have more intelligence than any other human being.
We do not have the same level of intelligence as others.
So Either Einstein was the most stupid person on the planet ever, or you are wrong.

Um.... let me think about that a moment.
No, you are wrong.

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:00 am
by surreptitious57
ken wrote:
Looking from the open Mind where imagination exists is more important than looking from the brain

Mind is actually a function of the brain so they are not separate from each other but interconnected

limitless imagination

There is no such thing

There is a finite limit to the degree of abstract thought a that brain can process

For you cannot imagine anything which is beyond your actual capability to do so


Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:05 am
by surreptitious57
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
I am one of the few people who does not think Einstein was necessarily the fountain of knowlege for everything under the Sun
I know of no one who thinks this so far from being one of the very few people who do you are actually one of the very many

Re: Albert Einstein

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:29 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
surreptitious57 wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
I am one of the few people who does not think Einstein was necessarily the fountain of knowlege for everything under the Sun
I know of no one who thinks this so far from being one of the very few people who do you are actually one of the very many
Then why is he always being quoted for everything under the Sun? Just look at the OP.