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Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:34 am
by Dontaskme
"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:59 am
by surreptitious57

I am absolutely sure that religious beliefs exist and will continue to exist as long as there are humans to believe in them

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:57 pm
by Dontaskme
surreptitious57 wrote:
I am absolutely sure that religious beliefs exist and will continue to exist as long as there are humans to believe in them


Beliefs appear in no believer.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:38 pm
by Lacewing
There are countless variations of religious beliefs... and each variation is considered to be “ultimate truth” by the believer.

The title of this thread could appear to identify beliefs that WE (all) are absolutely sure about... which it cannot and does not do. Rather, if it said YOU... then that would more clearly reflect that it is about individual varied beliefs.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:25 pm
by Dalek Prime
Similar archetypes appear worldwide throughout history. Man always tries to explain the unknown, to find succour in it.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:11 pm
by Reflex
Dontaskme wrote:"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."
So what if it is?

This is ACIM thinking, which impresses me about as much as LW.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:09 pm
by Lacewing
Reflex wrote:which impresses me about as much as LW
Oh fuck off Reflux. What is your problem? You have to keep throwing your little snipey barbs like a coward when I'm not even talking to you or about you (and you're supposedly ignoring me). There is nothing wrong with my perspective. I don't push it on you... so LET IT BE! Stop being such an arrogant man baby. Not everybody believes your self-important delusions -- accept it. You're not near as brilliant and as sure of yourself as you project yourself to be if you keep flapping over me having a different perspective. It seems to show that my questioning bothers you. Personally, the fact that you cannot even appreciate SOME of my flexible perspective suggests that you are in a static box. There's always some value/truth to be found beyond oneself, if you're not too busy stroking yourself to notice.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:13 pm
by Dalek Prime
Lacewing wrote:
Reflex wrote:which impresses me about as much as LW
Oh fuck off Reflux. What is your problem? You have to keep throwing your little snipey barbs like a coward when I'm not even talking to you or about you (and you're supposedly ignoring me). There is nothing wrong with my perspective. I don't push it on you... so LET IT BE! Stop being such an arrogant man baby. Not everybody believes your self-important delusions -- accept it. You're not near as brilliant and as sure of yourself as you project yourself to be if you keep flapping over me having a different perspective. It seems to show that my questioning bothers you. Personally, the fact that you cannot even appreciate SOME of my flexible perspective shows what a self-pleasuring idiot you are. There's always some value/truth to be found, if you're not too busy stroking yourself to notice.
Hey! Don't knock self-stroking! It works lol!

('Reflux'. Lol!)

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:44 pm
by Reflex
Dalek Prime wrote:
Lacewing wrote:
Reflex wrote:which impresses me about as much as LW
Oh fuck off Reflux. What is your problem? You have to keep throwing your little snipey barbs like a coward when I'm not even talking to you or about you (and you're supposedly ignoring me). There is nothing wrong with my perspective. I don't push it on you... so LET IT BE! Stop being such an arrogant man baby. Not everybody believes your self-important delusions -- accept it. You're not near as brilliant and as sure of yourself as you project yourself to be if you keep flapping over me having a different perspective. It seems to show that my questioning bothers you. Personally, the fact that you cannot even appreciate SOME of my flexible perspective shows what a self-pleasuring idiot you are. There's always some value/truth to be found, if you're not too busy stroking yourself to notice.
Hey! Don't knock self-stroking! It works lol!

('Reflux'. Lol!)
ROFLMAO!! Thanks for posting that Dalek. I wouldn't have seen that if somebody didn't post it. (BTW, I almost used "Reflux" because I used to work in an oil refinery and reflux is a critical part of the distilling process and can be a useful analogy.)

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:04 pm
by Dontaskme
Lacewing wrote:There are countless variations of religious beliefs... and each variation is considered to be “ultimate truth” by the believer.

The title of this thread could appear to identify beliefs that WE (all) are absolutely sure about... which it cannot and does not do. Rather, if it said YOU... then that would more clearly reflect that it is about individual varied beliefs.
There are no actual individual variations of religious belief in reality...only beliefs about individual variations of religious belief.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:12 pm
by Dontaskme
Dontaskme wrote:"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."
Reflex wrote:So what if it is?
Not if...

.....It IS the ultimate truth.
Reflex wrote:This is ACIM thinking
No it's not...nothing thought this.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:48 am
by Reflex
Dontaskme wrote:
Dontaskme wrote:"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."
Reflex wrote:So what if it is?
Not if...

.....It IS the ultimate truth.
Reflex wrote:This is ACIM thinking
No it's not...nothing thought this.
Been there, done that. I no longer appreciate radical mysticism: it's the abandonment of the creative process -- escapism.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:53 am
by thedoc
Dontaskme wrote:"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."

Dontaskme » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:57 am
Beliefs appear in no believer.
These appear to be a Nihilist's stance, and both are wrong.

Many things have happened, and for there to be a belief, there must be a believer.

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:01 am
by Nick_A
Reflex wrote:
Been there, done that. I no longer appreciate radical mysticism: it's the abandonment of the creative process -- escapism.
Smart move. If you can avoid these money makers like ACIM and Scientology you will indeed be ahead of the game

Re: Religious beliefs we are absolutely sure about??

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:05 am
by thedoc
Nick_A wrote:Reflex wrote:
Been there, done that. I no longer appreciate radical mysticism: it's the abandonment of the creative process -- escapism.
Smart move. If you can avoid these money makers like ACIM and Scientology you will indeed be ahead of the game
ACIM ?