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Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:33 am
by Dontaskme
Truth is here now. There is only truth. Any thought about truth is mental chatter and is not truth.

Truth has to be listened to, not spoken about. If you listen carefully without uttering a word about it, truth will silently whisper to you if you are willing to listen to it. But if you attempt to find it in intellectual mental understandings using the knowledge you have available, this will not bring you to truth, it will divert you away.

Every religion is pointing to the same truth that you already know within you.

Interpreting a sign post to truth as the actual truth is not the truth. We cannot blame the signpost for not being the truth.

If you oppose the obvious truth here now you will cover it over. Truth is the realisation and remembering that here there is no opposition.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:19 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Dontaskme wrote:Truth is here now. There is only truth. Any thought about truth is mental chatter and is not truth.

Truth has to be listened to, not spoken about. If you listen carefully without uttering a word about it, truth will silently whisper to you if you are willing to listen to it. But if you attempt to find it in intellectual mental understandings using the knowledge you have available, this will not bring you to truth, it will divert you away.

Every religion is pointing to the same truth that you already know within you.

Interpreting a sign post to truth as the actual truth is not the truth. We cannot blame the signpost for not being the truth.

If you oppose the obvious truth here now you will cover it over. Truth is the realisation and remembering that here there is no opposition.
Can you please be quiet your mental chatter is spilling over onto the Internet.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:27 am
by Dontaskme
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Can you please be quiet your mental chatter is spilling over onto the Internet.
Many authors appear, but there is only one silently reading, reading is a from of listening understanding that which no one ever wrote.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:35 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Dontaskme wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Can you please be quiet your mental chatter is spilling over onto the Internet.
Many authors appear, but there is only one silently reading, reading is a from of listening understanding that which no one ever wrote.
What I said above.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:36 pm
by ken
Dontaskme wrote:Truth is here now. There is only truth. Any thought about truth is mental chatter and is not truth.

Truth has to be listened to, not spoken about. If you listen carefully without uttering a word about it, truth will silently whisper to you if you are willing to listen to it. But if you attempt to find it in intellectual mental understandings using the knowledge you have available, this will not bring you to truth, it will divert you away.

Every religion is pointing to the same truth that you already know within you.

Interpreting a sign post to truth as the actual truth is not the truth. We cannot blame the signpost for not being the truth.

If you oppose the obvious truth here now you will cover it over. Truth is the realisation and remembering that here there is no opposition.
Obviously dontaskme has NOT been listening carefully at all.

I have warned you already. Do NOT tell others what they can or can not do.

If 'you' are truly willing to listen to Me, then 'you' would have heard Me. Truth IS obvious. I am telling It to 'you' ALL the time. I wish 'you' would stop chattering and just LISTEN.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:33 pm
by Dontaskme
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Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:26 pm
by Reflex
:::sigh::: Sometimes I can almost understand why the secular-minded get so perturbed.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:15 am
by Dontaskme
ken wrote:
I have warned you already. Do NOT tell others what they can or can not do.

I have no desire to speak to people who tell me to ''Do NOT tell others what they can or can not do.''

Telling people to stop doing what they can't do is disrespectful.

Your strategy for a lively engaging professional debate with others is deeply flawed... please go way and stop insulting my intelligence.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:54 pm
by Lacewing
Dontaskme wrote:Truth has to be listened to, not spoken about.
Respectfully... Truth whispers to me about your communications. As with all of us, I see a lot of noise and contradiction (perhaps it is your own mental chatter) mixed in with the "insights" you endeavor to share. Like most humans, you appear to speak more than listen... and tell more than connect... (although your/our "intentions may be good").
Dontaskme wrote:If you oppose the obvious truth here now you will cover it over.
Are you opposing the obvious truth here now?
Dontaskme wrote:Truth is the realisation and remembering that here there is no opposition.
Yes, yet you seem to think that there is much "we" don't see and know that "you" need to TELL us? Why do you need to tell... and who are you telling it to?

Are you seeing opposition?

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:20 pm
by sthitapragya
Lacewing wrote:
Dontaskme wrote:Truth has to be listened to, not spoken about.
Respectfully... Truth whispers to me about your communications. As with all of us, I see a lot of noise and contradiction (perhaps it is your own mental chatter) mixed in with the "insights" you endeavor to share. Like most humans, you appear to speak more than listen... and tell more than connect... (although your/our "intentions may be good").
Dontaskme wrote:If you oppose the obvious truth here now you will cover it over.
Are you opposing the obvious truth here now?
Dontaskme wrote:Truth is the realisation and remembering that here there is no opposition.
Yes, yet you seem to think that there is much "we" don't see and know that "you" need to TELL us? Why do you need to tell... and who are you telling it to?

Are you seeing opposition?
Lace, you really can find them, can't you? This is a guy who says "Real can neither be spoken nor written. Only the illusory is spoken and written."
And he WRITES this, immediately proving that what he writes is illusory. Then he ignores that and moves right on ahead, telling you that you don't know shit, because he is the exception. Everything you write is illusory. Everything he writes is real. He just forgot to WRITE that part. His thread, his rules.

Here is another gem: "All beliefs are about the relationship of imaginary things and are thereby false." We have to assume that he means all beliefs except his. He is the exception. Because he is special. His beliefs are not illusory. Only yours. These are not delusions of grandeur. These are delusions of godliness.

Another brick wall.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:32 pm
by duszek
Nobody likes to be given advice without having asked for it.
It is patronizing.

However:

We can formulate our friendly advice to the world by formulating it as something we ourselves want to do.

Let me try:

"It seems to me that truth is not found in mental chatter, therefore I try to be calm and to contemplate some revealing aspects of life.

Would you like me to share my modest results with you ?"


I am not a psychologist but I suppose that some people would get curious and ask you for some results.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:49 pm
by Lacewing
sthitapragya wrote: Lace, you really can find them, can't you?
:lol:

It appears to be a gift/curse/mission -- I have no idea what. I'm just flowing with it in the moment... slashing it with my sword, or kissing it, or laughing, or whatever seems appropriate. :D

What I find so baffling is how we humans say the most bizarre things without hearing ourselves. If we were to hear someone else say it, we would likely say, "Hey, wait a minute... do you hear what you're saying? Do you see where that doesn't make sense? Do you see how that's protecting (or manipulating) something?" But when we ourselves are saying it, we are often inclined to send it off over the airwaves, without as much critical observation. And then, if challenged, the ego can be so incredibly clever (even if transparent) in trying to rearrange or refuse anything to the contrary of our "ultimate rightness". I've seen myself doing it -- and it's somewhat horrifying, but very FREEING to truly face.

Bless our poor fragile selves for thinking we need to fight so hard to be something in particular.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:04 pm
by Dontaskme
sthitapragya wrote:
Lace, you really can find them, can't you? This is a guy who says "Real can neither be spoken nor written. Only the illusory is spoken and written."
And he WRITES this, immediately proving that what he writes is illusory. Then he ignores that and moves right on ahead, telling you that you don't know shit, because he is the exception. Everything you write is illusory. Everything he writes is real. He just forgot to WRITE that part. His thread, his rules.

Here is another gem: "All beliefs are about the relationship of imaginary things and are thereby false." We have to assume that he means all beliefs except his. He is the exception. Because he is special. His beliefs are not illusory. Only yours. These are not delusions of grandeur. These are delusions of godliness.

Another brick wall.
Err, I said truth is not found in mental chatter not real.

Anything spoken or written is not truth...ITs REAL ONLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN ILLUSION APPEARING REAL...in other words imagined, I know some of you dim wits are not comfortable with the idea that the entire story of life is imagined by no one, including the story of ''I''

To the imagined character aka a human it appears that nothing can be known unless read or heard. But this knowing is not truth, it is illusory knowledge.

No one is the exception, including me, so stop whining little boy. This writing is appearing from no where, it is mental story, just happening all by itself, if you don't understand that then that's also what's happening all by itself. I cannot talk about truth because it can never be an experience. only the story appearing here is experienced....

sthitapragya no human knows anything about reality whatsoever, and that's all I'm trying to say, I know you seem to get pleasure from mocking people like me but just to let you know it's all water off a ducks back so do your worst....

All I'm saying is humans only have second hand knowledge of their reality, in other words what has been passed on to them by others, and others before them...often people just pass it off as gospel truth without question ...but I never do that...I wanted to know real truth, and I did eventually discover it, so I'm just putting it out here...not me...life is doing it....if people want to take it the wrong way and feel like I am being patronising then that's their problem, as far as I'm concerned I'm simply putting it out there and it's not aimed at people personally...people need to just stop taking what I say too personally and seriously...and listen. If you are not interested then leave it alone, go somewhere else, why attack the messenger, what do you gain by doing that other than to make yourself look more important and self righteous. I'm really not interested in such things, I'm not even here to make friends and win approval ..., I''ve realised a profound truth, and that is I am only ever talking to myself, because the answers to life are to be found in no other place, other than your very own self...what ever that is?

''Everything you write is illusory. Everything he writes is real'' .
...NO NO NO, dear human, nothing I write is real, I'm using words to point to the real, I'm using the illusory knowledge to point to the truth, and that is life is illusory, no one is living it. But your too stuck in the story of me me me can't you see that. But never mind stupid is as stupid does...doh!

I know I'm talking to brick wall here and no one gives a damn...but I like talking about this subject, it's the only thing I know anything about. Sorry if it offends anyone. But that's just another thing that's happening to no one.

Geez Free yourself of yourselves and have a fun ride of a life before it's too late.

PS..I'm not afraid to be like this...I'm not worried about how I am perceived because I know the truth...so having people mock me, is a kind of big thrill for me, I love the human drama. There's sod all else to do in life. One thing you will get from me is total honesty about anything...

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:22 pm
by Dontaskme
Okay..moving on then....

Ask your self, who am I ?

And wait for the answer to come...that'll be the truth.

Try it, and for those who are happy little sports and want to play the human drama with me, report back with your findings?

But don't write reams and reams of comments, just simple straight to the point answers will suffice...thanks in advance.

Re: Truth is not found in mental chatter.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:50 pm
by duszek
And if a megalomanic answers it ?
Or someone with a serious disorder ?

Then it will not be the truth, will it ?