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Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose? Are we actually seeking the truth? Are we looking for the right answers? Are we actually listening? At times, someone might be speaking a lot of sense, but we are prejudiced. We have already made up our mind and because we are being judgmental, we are unable to see the truth and thus our seeking fails.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers. A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.

AiR

AiR wrote:Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose? Are we actually seeking the truth? Are we looking for the right answers? Are we actually listening? At times, someone might be speaking a lot of sense, but we are prejudiced. We have already made up our mind and because we are being judgmental, we are unable to see the truth and thus our seeking fails.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers. A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.

AiR

You need to check your assumptions.

AiR wrote:Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose? Are we actually seeking the truth? Are we looking for the right answers? Are we actually listening? At times, someone might be speaking a lot of sense, but we are prejudiced. We have already made up our mind and because we are being judgmental, we are unable to see the truth and thus our seeking fails.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers. A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.

AiR

This is rich coming from someone who keeps churning out the same old rubbish and never sticks around to defend it. Are you open minded? How willing are you to re evaluate the beliefs you keep preaching about?

I think people are looking for confirmation as to what they most desire the answers to be.

Air, only a small minority are interested in truth as it concerns the human condition and our relationship to higher consciousness. Most prefer the security of imagination and the feeling of self importance made possible through self justification. It is the norm for life in Plato's cave. Threaten that and you will get an argument.

Nick_A wrote:Air, only a small minority are interested in truth as it concerns the human condition and our relationship to higher consciousness. Most prefer the security of imagination and the feeling of self importance made possible through self justification. It is the norm for life in Plato's cave. Threaten that and you will get an argument.

Clearly you feel threatened, and still can't give a valid argument for what you believe, which you still haven't properly explained to anyone's satisfaction, save your own. You are only interested in the confirmation of your desires, as I've stated above.

D P wrote: Clearly you feel threatened, and still can't give a valid argument for what you believe, which you still haven't properly explained to anyone's satisfaction, save your own.

What is a valid argument for a blind denier? Clearly it is anything that supports blind denial. Anything else is invalid. This is the fruit of modern education.

Nick_A wrote:Air, only a small minority are interested in truth as it concerns the human condition and our relationship to higher consciousness. Most prefer the security of imagination and the feeling of self importance made possible through self justification. It is the norm for life in Plato's cave. Threaten that and you will get an argument.

Small minority?? Across the world, 2% to 13% are atheists. All the others are religious. Small minority. Get your facts right at least. Just like your sweeping statement, "God is beyond space and time."

AiR wrote:Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose?

AiR

I find it amazing and mind boggling that you actually believe that God put you here for a purpose but did not tell you what it was. You seriously believe that He does not understand how ridiculously stupid and inefficient that is?

Nick_A wrote: What is a valid argument for a blind denier?

This is so clever. Taking the term "blind faith" and turning it round to throw back at the critics of religion. However, as brilliant a tactic as it is, I think you may be over doing it. By continually repeating the phrase, you are coming across as an increasingly bigger and bigger dick head, which, I'm sure, is not the effect you are hoping to achieve.

Nick_A wrote:

D P wrote: Clearly you feel threatened, and still can't give a valid argument for what you believe, which you still haven't properly explained to anyone's satisfaction, save your own.

What is a valid argument for a blind denier? Clearly it is anything that supports blind denial. Anything else is invalid. This is the fruit of modern education.

Try something that actually makes sense, and can be supported.

Melchior wrote:https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

Absolutely brilliant!!!!!

sthitapragya wrote:

Melchior wrote:https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

Absolutely brilliant!!!!!

Yes, it was. In the 70s.