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U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:33 pm
by bobevenson
Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:57 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
What about WWII, was the draft justified then? What about cases of last ditch defense against an attacker who unjustly seeks to destroy the nation?

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:17 pm
by bobevenson
Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
What about WWII, was the draft justified then? What about cases of last ditch defense against an attacker who unjustly seeks to destroy the nation?
Slavery is never justified under any circumstances. The reason certain people are subjected to this type of slavery is that the rest of us would rather loll on the beach than pay the fair-market price to hire soldiers in wartime.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:29 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
What about WWII, was the draft justified then? What about cases of last ditch defense against an attacker who unjustly seeks to destroy the nation?
Slavery is never justified under any circumstances. The reason certain people are subjected to this type of slavery is that the rest of us would rather loll on the beach than pay the fair-market price to hire soldiers in wartime.
I should have figured somewhere along the line libertarian politics and economic principles would factor into this. Everything has a price. Victory to the highest bidder.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:42 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
Since other countries do it or have done it, the US has no monopoly in this area (nor will - in fact the US did this before in WWII with the WACs). And you can't call it slavery because besides pay, there would be food and lodging and other benefits if you want to compare it with civilian life. And how would the women be treated under the AEP you hypocrite?

PhilX

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:00 pm
by bobevenson
Gary Childress wrote:I should have figured somewhere along the line libertarian politics and economic principles would factor into this. Everything has a price. Victory to the highest bidder.
Can I properly assume you have no problem with slavery?

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:02 pm
by bobevenson
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
Since other countries do it or have done it, the US has no monopoly in this area (nor will - in fact the US did this before in WWII with the WACs). And you can't call it slavery because besides pay, there would be food and lodging and other benefits if you want to compare it with civilian life. And how would the women be treated under the AEP you hypocrite?
You're the hypocrite, but don't have the balls to admit it.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:05 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
bobevenson wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
Since other countries do it or have done it, the US has no monopoly in this area (nor will - in fact the US did this before in WWII with the WACs). And you can't call it slavery because besides pay, there would be food and lodging and other benefits if you want to compare it with civilian life. And how would the women be treated under the AEP you hypocrite?
You're the hypocrite, but don't have the balls to admit it,
Look who's talking, the Arising_UK evader who's unable to answer his questions. And is unable to address my issues.

PhilX

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:45 pm
by bobevenson
The black slaves in America got three hots and a cot, just like U.S. servicemen do. Was that OK? The U.S. put Americans of Japanese ancestry into concentration camps. Was that OK? The AEP would abolish that and every other kind of slavery, including selective service, from the get-go, my friend.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:46 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:I should have figured somewhere along the line libertarian politics and economic principles would factor into this. Everything has a price. Victory to the highest bidder.
Can I properly assume you have no problem with slavery?
Well, Bob. Let's put it this way:

If you believe that serial killers should be killed then you must believe in murder.

If you believe that serial killers should be locked up in prison, then you must believe in slavery.

If you believe that serial killers should be allowed to do what they wish, then you must be crazy.

So which is it, Bob? Do you believe in murder, slavery or are you crazy? When you answer that I'll tell you whether I have a problem with "slavery" or not.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:51 pm
by bobevenson
You seem to have a problem answering my simple question, so I assume you have no problem with slavery, which is what drafting law-abiding citizens into the military is.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:07 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:You seem to have a problem answering my simple question, so I assume you have no problem with slavery, which is what drafting law-abiding citizens into the military is.
Bob, I have (as have others) asked questions of you before and you have ignored them. Therefore I really don't see why I should feel "guilted" into answering any more of your deluded nonsense. When you satisfactorily answer my question posed above, I will answer yours.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:38 pm
by bobevenson
Sorry, the subject of this thread is about U.S. government-sanctioned slavery of a military draft. If you don't care to comment, OK, but please stick to the subject.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:51 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:Sorry, the subject of this thread is about U.S. government-sanctioned slavery of a military draft. If you don't care to comment, OK, but please stick to the subject.
Fair enough, Bob. In that case, I am against "slavery" under most all circumstances except the most dire.

Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:54 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
bobevenson wrote:You seem to have a problem answering my simple question, so I assume you have no problem with slavery, which is what drafting law-abiding citizens into the military is.
And you always have a problem answering Arising_UK's simple questions so he's right to assume you're an absolute fool.

PhilX