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Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:13 pm
by Jaded Sage
If idols are prayed to and worshiped, and alcohol is an idol, then we must reexamine what prayer and worship are, because nobody looks to them in a way that we would normally call prayer and worship. So what are they?
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:29 pm
by Obvious Leo
Check your calendar. April fool's day was yesterday.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:45 pm
by Jaded Sage
Not a joke.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:28 am
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:Not a joke.
So what is it then?
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:30 am
by Jaded Sage
Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:Not a joke.
So what is it then?
The post is philosophy. Prayer and worship are excessive glorification and exaltation. But there's more to it than that I think.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:02 am
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:
The post is philosophy. Prayer and worship are excessive glorification and exaltation. But there's more to it than that I think.
I doubt that anyone prays to alcohol. They may pray for it, but that's not the same thing. The word "worship", used to describe someone's liking for alcohol has different connotations to the same word applied to a person's attitude to, for example, God. I think you are falsely assuming the word to mean the same thing in both cases.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:37 am
by Jaded Sage
Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:
The post is philosophy. Prayer and worship are excessive glorification and exaltation. But there's more to it than that I think.
I doubt that anyone prays to alcohol. They may pray for it, but that's not the same thing. The word "worship", used to describe someone's liking for alcohol has different connotations to the same word applied to a person's attitude to, for example, God. I think you are falsely assuming the word to mean the same thing in both cases.
Dude, you just gave me the standard definitions after I demonstrated that there's a problem with the standard definitions.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:50 am
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:
Dude, you just give me the standard definitions after I demonstrated that there's a problem with the standard definitions.
I think it would be simpler and more accurate to just say there is a problem with the original post overall.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:52 am
by Jaded Sage
Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:
Dude, you just give me the standard definitions after I demonstrated that there's a problem with the standard definitions.
I think it would be simpler and more accurate to just say there is a problem with the original post overall.
Don't say things like that. It's sound logic.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:08 pm
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:
Don't say things like that. It's sound logic.
I was just trying to save from wasting any more of our time.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:13 pm
by Jaded Sage
Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:
Don't say things like that. It's sound logic.
I was just trying to save from wasting any more of our time.
Phil of Religion isn't the place for you. Unless you're going to contribute something, I'm ignoring you. Good day.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:22 pm
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:
Phil of Religion isn't the place for you. Unless you're going to contribute something, I'm ignoring you. Good day.
That's gratitude for you. If it wasn't for me this topic would be completely inactive.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:34 pm
by Jaded Sage
Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:
Phil of Religion isn't the place for you. Unless you're going to contribute something, I'm ignoring you. Good day.
That's gratitude for you. If it wasn't for me this topic would be completely inactive.
Technically, that's a different contribution. I actually prefer it inactive to this kind of numbskullery. I wish others knew that.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:47 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:Harbal wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:
Phil of Religion isn't the place for you. Unless you're going to contribute something, I'm ignoring you. Good day.
That's gratitude for you. If it wasn't for me this topic would be completely inactive.
Technically, that's a different contribution. I actually prefer it inactive to this kind of numbskullery. I wish others knew that.
Prayer and Worship are just not worth examination.
Re: Reexamination of prayer and worship
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:59 pm
by Harbal
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Prayer and Worship are just not worth examination.
Here you are, Jaded, a positive response to get your topic moving.