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Sometimes I think that rules are made to be broken.

For me, three.

PhilX

No idea what they are?

Most of them multiple times. I'very killed numerous animals, either directly or by proxy. I've not coveted a neighbour's wife (maybe the occasional husband but not for a long time ).

Greta wrote:Most of them multiple times. I'very killed numerous animals, either directly or by proxy. I've not coveted a neighbour's wife (maybe the occasional husband but not for a long time ).

Greta,

I don't think, due to your gender, most people would count your coveting neighbor's wives.

What's the biggest animal you've ever killed?

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Greta wrote:Most of them multiple times. I'very killed numerous animals, either directly or by proxy. I've not coveted a neighbour's wife (maybe the occasional husband but not for a long time ).

Greta,

I don't think, due to your gender, most people would count your coveting neighbor's wives.

What's the biggest animal you've ever killed?

PhilX

By proxy, either a cow or crocodile. Rats by poison. By my own hand, probably snails.

I did misbehave with some husbands back in the old days. No wives. Dammit, men are enough trouble.

I liked George Carlin's approach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rLWJntz-o

Greta wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Greta wrote:Most of them multiple times. I'very killed numerous animals, either directly or by proxy. I've not coveted a neighbour's wife (maybe the occasional husband but not for a long time ).

Greta,

I don't think, due to your gender, most people would count your coveting neighbor's wives.

What's the biggest animal you've ever killed?

PhilX

By proxy, either a cow or crocodile. Rats by poison. By my own hand, probably snails.

I did misbehave with some husbands back in the old days. No wives. Dammit, men are enough trouble.

I liked George Carlin's approach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rLWJntz-o

Has anyone ever called you killer?

PhilX

The "Ten Commandments" do not exist in the Bible. There are more than 10.

I voted 9, but in second thoughts its probably ten, depending on what you mean by "Thou shalt not kill."

Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Ten Commandments" do not exist in the Bible. There are more than 10.

I voted 9, but in second thoughts its probably ten, depending on what you mean by "Thou shalt not kill."

How can you say about The Ten Commandments when there's two movies by that name and from what it says from my online encyclopedia?:

"The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of commandments which the Bible describes as having been given to the Israelites by God at biblical Mount Sinai. The Ten Commandments are listed twice in the Hebrew Bible, first at Exodus 20:1–17, and then at Deuteronomy 5:4–21."

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Ten Commandments" do not exist in the Bible. There are more than 10.

I voted 9, but in second thoughts its probably ten, depending on what you mean by "Thou shalt not kill."

How can you say about The Ten Commandments when there's two movies by that name and from what it says from my online encyclopedia?:

"The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of commandments which the Bible describes as having been given to the Israelites by God at biblical Mount Sinai. The Ten Commandments are listed twice in the Hebrew Bible, first at Exodus 20:1–17, and then at Deuteronomy 5:4–21."

PhilX

Don't just copy and paste, idiot. Take a look.

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Ten Commandments" do not exist in the Bible. There are more than 10.

I voted 9, but in second thoughts its probably ten, depending on what you mean by "Thou shalt not kill."

How can you say about The Ten Commandments when there's two movies by that name and from what it says from my online encyclopedia?:

"The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of commandments which the Bible describes as having been given to the Israelites by God at biblical Mount Sinai. The Ten Commandments are listed twice in the Hebrew Bible, first at Exodus 20:1–17, and then at Deuteronomy 5:4–21."

PhilX

Don't just copy and paste, idiot. Take a look.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
20:22 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
20:24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.
20:25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
20:26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

I make that 15

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Ten Commandments" do not exist in the Bible. There are more than 10.

I voted 9, but in second thoughts its probably ten, depending on what you mean by "Thou shalt not kill."

How can you say about The Ten Commandments when there's two movies by that name and from what it says from my online encyclopedia?:

"The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of commandments which the Bible describes as having been given to the Israelites by God at biblical Mount Sinai. The Ten Commandments are listed twice in the Hebrew Bible, first at Exodus 20:1–17, and then at Deuteronomy 5:4–21."

PhilX

Don't just copy and paste, idiot. Take a look.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
20:22 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
20:24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.
20:25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
20:26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

I make that 15

Well Village Idiot, which version of the Bible did you pull those out of? Because the OT has 10. I don't recognize 20.22 - 20.26 and the wording in some of the others appear altered or different from what I was taught.

So whose rewritten version of the Bible are you using? (btw I already know there are NT versions of the Bible that match up with the OT so I'm sticking with the original ten).

PhilX

Phil, the quotes check out online. Damned if I know what version is what, but those versions are clearly in some versions of Deut.

Hobbes, I never knew. It's like learning of a fifth Beatle!

I can see why they didn't include the animal sacrifice in the ten liftout commandments - it's a turnoff for most and a turn on for the wrong kinds of people.

Greta wrote:Phil, the quotes check out online. Damned if I know what version is what, but those versions are clearly in some versions of Deut.

Hobbes, I never knew. It's like learning of a fifth Beatle!

I can see why they didn't include the animal sacrifice in the ten liftout commandments - it's a turnoff for most and a turn on for the wrong kinds of people.

The so called Decalogue was a later invention, which has grown to mythical proportions. It's a handy (literally) method of imposing a set of convenient rules on the populace.
Rational objections that "10" is just a shorter version is the multitude of rules in the Bible, were all but dismissed when people saw Charlton Heston bring back the 2 tablets with five on each (or 15 if you discount the ones Mel Brooks dropped and broke one).

I can honestly say I've never coveted my neighbour's ass, whether it be the English or the American definition. But, on the other hand, I have broken two at once by coveting his wife's ass.

Harbal wrote:I can honestly say I've never coveted my neighbour's ass, whether it be the English or the American definition. But, on the other hand, I have broken two at once by coveting his wife's ass.

I don't have any male neighbours at all. They are all women. They all keep a pet man around the house, though, to provide them with covetable man-ass when required