Page 1 of 1

Do numbers need to be compared with one another to understand them better?

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:11 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
If you're familiar with number theory, you may know what I mean. I'll give you a simple example so you can see what I'm driving at.

Say we have these two groups of numbers: (2,16,13,3) and (6,9,15,4). All the numbers are different from one another, right?

If you add up all the numbers in each group, you get 34, right? If you dot multiply the numbers by (1,2,3,4), here's what happens:

1•2 + 2•16 + 3•13 + 4•3 = 1•6 + 2•9 + 3•15 + 4•4 = 85,
right?

Now let's dot multiply by (4,3,2,1):

4•2 + 3•16 + 2•13 + 1•3 = 4•6 + 3•9 + 2•15 + 1•4 = 85,
right?

I could go further. Here's something no one would expect.
The numbers seem independent, yet they share certain properties (similar to quantum states in entanglement).
Why? Why do these numbers act entangled? (number theory is filled with many examples)

PhilX

Re: Do numbers need to be compared with one another to understand them better?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:29 am
by Dalek Prime
Numbers quantify. That's all they do. You can and will drive yourself to distraction if you seek another purpose which is not there. Patterns can be fun, and clearly useful, but you don't want to get into numerology. That's Bob's domain; finding the combination that unlocks the secrets of the universe.

Re: Do numbers need to be compared with one another to understand them better?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:39 am
by Philosophy Explorer
No, not numerology for me. Science is my basis.

PhilX

Re: Do numbers need to be compared with one another to understand them better?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:41 am
by Dalek Prime
Philosophy Explorer wrote:No, not numerology for me. Science is my basis.

PhilX
Not saying you are. I'm just saying it can lead one there.

Re: Do numbers need to be compared with one another to understand them better?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:23 am
by osgart
thats actually interesting. Like the nature of mathematics is symmetrical. You would have to apply that to reality though and not just math. I thinks reality is not so cleanly mathematical yet very well manipulated by it.