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~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:28 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Working rightly, the brain is the highest form of “instinctual wisdom.” Thus it should work like the homing instinct of pigeons and the formation of the fetus in the womb — without verbalizing the process or knowing “how” it does it.
The self-conscious brain, like the self-conscious heart, is a disorder, and manifests itself in the acute feeling of separation between “I” and my experience.
The brain can only assume its proper behavior when consciousness is doing what it is designed for: not writhing and whirling to get out of present experience, but being effortlessly aware of it.
~~~ Alan Watts ~~~
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Re: ~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:37 am
by Dalek Prime
The heart is not conscious, so stop attributing it to the heart. It's romantic tomfoolery.
Look. Just because some twat who loved his drugs and hippiness introduces eastern mysticism to the west, doesn't make eastern mysticism any more right than it ever was.
Re: ~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:20 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Please. You're punching air. And you are attempting to punch waaaaaaaaay beyond your pay grade.
Do something for yourself. Right now, your lack of self-respect is showing...
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Re: ~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:36 am
by Dalek Prime
Put down you're drugs, drop the popular philosophy crap that you can pick up by the cashier at the grocery store or pharmacy, and start thinking for a change, Bill.
I have a small core philosophy that I stick to. You know why that is? Because I've thought about it intensively. I already know what I'm about, and can discard the crap. But you, Bill? You are all over the place with ideas you barely understand. And you know why that is? Because you don't have a solid core philosophy, and you don't know enough about philosophy to find out how to reach that point through reasoning from a core system. And so you'll never change.
No core system, no way to reason from it and build, and thus no real conclusions. And you'll be doing this til you pass, unless you change. That's good and free advice, though you won't see it that way. So don't bother answering.
You dance with ideas flooding your brain, Bill. But you can't formulate a real philosophy from random ideas. Especially when they are someone else's, like that twat Watts. Regurgitating someone else's view is religion, not philosophy. You regurgitate his, and Watts regurgitates eastern ideas. And you both lose, because ultimately, Watts left us nothing save his pablum, and solved nothing in his life, except how to pad his wallet by selling others on his regurgitated horseshit.
Re: ~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:30 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Okay. I like your position and I like the way you write.
Where are you at philosophically within this point in your life?
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Re: ~ The Conscious Heart ~
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:53 pm
by Dalek Prime
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Okay. I like your position and I like the way you write.
Where are you at philosophically within this point in your life?
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That's gracious of you Bill. Appreciated. And I'm truly sorry if I come off as attacking you personally. It's not meant in that vein. I just want to help set you out of the groove I perceive you're in, philosophically, that you can run with, and find comfort from. But it's got to be valid, and it's got to feel right for you ie. intuitively acceptable. And you'll know this, not because it solves all your problems, but because you can rely on it not to wither in the face of competing ideas. That's philosophical solid ground.
Right now, I'm grappling with the constraints and problems of living, as everyone else is. Having a core philosophy still leaves one with day to day problems that must be dealt with. Am I dealing with them? I'm doing my best. All we can do is confront them. Avoidance only compounds the problem.