Many of us stay in the cave till our graves because we are so restricted and protected by our belief systems that all our lives, we choose to live and die in the cave. Just like a frog in the well, we are not willing to explore the reality of who we truly are, what we are, where we have come from, and where we will go.
We are so programmed as children and young adults that whatever we have learned in the first two to three decades of our life becomes the constitution, the rules, and the laws of our life. Our philosophy refuses to go beyond that. We live and die with the roots we have been given. And because of these roots, we are unable to change the shoots and the fruits. Thus, we live our entire lives as the same tree.
But once in a while, some of us may walk out of the cave to see the beautiful sunshine outside, to look up at the sky and see the clouds, birds, moon and stars, realizing that the life in the cave was restricted.
In the same way, we believe that we are this body. We live and die in those little families that are known to us, without realizing our true Father, our Creator. Who is our Creator? Where did we come from? Essentially, who are we?
When we contemplate deeply, we realize that we are not this mortal body, but the divine spirit, which is nothing but the power of God, the almighty Creator – omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient – who we cannot define or comprehend. Much later, when we have the courage to think further, then only we realize that we are not just the spirit, but also the power of God – beyond being the spirit alone.
God has manifested into everything in this world. Without God, there is nothing! This entire world is a manifestation and not a creation of God. Therefore, we are God, disguised, manifested as this human body.
It is on deep contemplation that this realization is arrived at – as to who we are and who God is. Once we realize these answers, we can live a life of bliss or Aananda, knowing the truth that God is everywhere, even in our hearts!
AiR
In the Cave till our Grave
Re: In the Cave till our Grave
Well, to be fair, the evidence supporting this belief is quite compelling.AiR wrote:we believe that we are this body.
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You're spouting your own protected, restrictive belief system right here. You only think you are breathing fresh air because the carbon dioxide build up in your own cave is so thick, it's got you hallucinating.AiR wrote:Many of us stay in the cave till our graves because we are so restricted and protected by our belief systems that all our lives, we choose to live and die in the cave. Just like a frog in the well, we are not willing to explore the reality of who we truly are, what we are, where we have come from, and where we will go.
We are so programmed as children and young adults that whatever we have learned in the first two to three decades of our life becomes the constitution, the rules, and the laws of our life. Our philosophy refuses to go beyond that. We live and die with the roots we have been given. And because of these roots, we are unable to change the shoots and the fruits. Thus, we live our entire lives as the same tree.
But once in a while, some of us may walk out of the cave to see the beautiful sunshine outside, to look up at the sky and see the clouds, birds, moon and stars, realizing that the life in the cave was restricted.
In the same way, we believe that we are this body. We live and die in those little families that are known to us, without realizing our true Father, our Creator. Who is our Creator? Where did we come from? Essentially, who are we?
When we contemplate deeply, we realize that we are not this mortal body, but the divine spirit, which is nothing but the power of God, the almighty Creator – omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient – who we cannot define or comprehend. Much later, when we have the courage to think further, then only we realize that we are not just the spirit, but also the power of God – beyond being the spirit alone.
God has manifested into everything in this world. Without God, there is nothing! This entire world is a manifestation and not a creation of God. Therefore, we are God, disguised, manifested as this human body.
It is on deep contemplation that this realization is arrived at – as to who we are and who God is. Once we realize these answers, we can live a life of bliss or Aananda, knowing the truth that God is everywhere, even in our hearts!
AiR
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Re: In the Cave till our Grave
Same with the cave! But I don't think that's what it is.Harbal wrote:Well, to be fair, the evidence supporting this belief is quite compelling.AiR wrote:we believe that we are this body.
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Contemplate is a fascinating word. Templum. Temple. Space. The temple is the Sacred Space. The temple is the mind. To contemplate requires two. You, and the object of contemplation. To contemplate requires thought. Thought requires two. You, and the thought. Duality.AiR wrote:When we contemplate deeply …
In the same sense that you are not the body … which is true, though from another altitude you are the body just not this body exclusively … you are not the object of contemplation ... though from another altitude you are the object, just not the object exclusively.
And who are you who contemplates, who knows of the body that you are, but not exclusively?
You are the only absolute in the universe, you Knight of the Templar you.
As Sri Nisargattada Maharaj said, and says in the present time to all who hear hear, Love is the meaning and purpose of duality.
She finds something fascinating in the really really cool.
(“Have you ever talked to an Atman recently, and had it talk back?” he said, and held it to the light.)
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Empirical Evidence
Contemplation requires thought.
The purpose of meditation is the cessation of thought.
The first movement of mind from no thought
Is to locate awareness in space, not time.
As the sensory gates remain closed
The first natural movement of mind is mind perception,
Not memory.
The light is a still field in which movement arises.
Visions not visions of eyes
But visions of non-conceptual mind sight
The whitish-clarity-stillness light like aether can be called stillness, or peace
That fills awareness
This is not the darkness perceived
When the light seen by eyes is blocked
By caves or walls or closed eyes.
Contemplation requires thought.
The purpose of meditation is the cessation of thought.
The first movement of mind from no thought
Is to locate awareness in space, not time.
As the sensory gates remain closed
The first natural movement of mind is mind perception,
Not memory.
The light is a still field in which movement arises.
Visions not visions of eyes
But visions of non-conceptual mind sight
The whitish-clarity-stillness light like aether can be called stillness, or peace
That fills awareness
This is not the darkness perceived
When the light seen by eyes is blocked
By caves or walls or closed eyes.
Re: In the Cave till our Grave
Therefore attunement and attention to an ongoing fundamental, empirical-based inquiry into creation, cognition, re-cognition, and the nature of physicality; based on the rational and apparently undeniable logical premise that only the physical exists.
In other words, change is noted by movement. No movement, no change, no dualistic differentiation of the three times. Consciousness requires form. Because gross scientific instruments cannot detect certain forms does not negate the existence of certain forms housing consciousness. The still mind purified of any blockages or distortions that cloud pure perception may be the only instrument subtle and sensitive enough to perceive what man has the capacity to perceive.
In other words, change is noted by movement. No movement, no change, no dualistic differentiation of the three times. Consciousness requires form. Because gross scientific instruments cannot detect certain forms does not negate the existence of certain forms housing consciousness. The still mind purified of any blockages or distortions that cloud pure perception may be the only instrument subtle and sensitive enough to perceive what man has the capacity to perceive.
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If we explore the reality of who we truly are, what we are, where we have come from and where we will go, then we'd come to a similar conclusion that morality doesn't exist. That leaves only morals, and morals are unique to the individual. So, one man decides he wants to rape, kill and then eat another man, and the rest of us have no say in the matter, other than a collective bargaining so far as punishment. That doesn't make sense though, that more people agree with one another as to what constitutes sanity is irrelevant to morals, this is what keeps people in that cave imo. Without the concept of God, human are nothing but beasts.