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I think in some cases, it would. I'm sure some members would point out some risks to this method.

PhilX

If you want to abuse it, in the case of opioids, sure. You can get other meds and and vitamins in alternate powdered forms eg. ASA, ascorbic acid.

I believe a bullet works faster than a pill, let me know how that works out, if you still can.

Works faster is not necessarily better.

99% of Vitamin C is pissed out of the body within an hour, if you take it dissolved in a liquid or powdered. It might de-oxidise the blood, but you might as well have taken 100mg rather than the 2grms some people take. If you want lasting benefit then you are better off taking slow release.

It is well know that taking coke up the nose is the quickest way to get high. I think this is better if that's what you are looking for.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:It is well know that taking coke up the nose is the quickest way to get high. I

Up the arse is very quick also. (So I'm told).

Obvious Leo wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:It is well know that taking coke up the nose is the quickest way to get high. I

Up the arse is very quick also. (So I'm told).

Is that true of opioids as well, do you think?

Dalek Prime wrote:Is that true of opioids as well, do you think?

As compared with absorbing them into the vascular system via the gastro-intestinal network I would assume the answer is yes. As compared with IV administration probably no. Why? Are you thinking about giving it a try?

Obvious Leo wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote:Is that true of opioids as well, do you think?

As compared with absorbing them into the vascular system via the gastro-intestinal network I would assume the answer is yes. As compared with IV administration probably no. Why? Are you thinking about giving it a try?

Only in my dying days, and only if the opioid I'm using contains the alkaloid that causes nausea. (I forget the name of it, but think it starts with an 'n'.)

Most experts would agree that a self-administered deliberate overdose of any substance would be the most reliably effective via IV delivery. In fact as long as you take enough of it and do it properly then it can't miss.

Obvious Leo wrote:Most experts would agree that a self-administered deliberate overdose of any substance would be the most reliably effective via IV delivery. In fact as long as you take enough of it and do it properly then it can't miss.

I was more thinking in terms of pain management, and not euthanasia. But it depends on how bad things are in the end. (And by 'end', I refer not to my rectum. Unless, of course, I'm dying of colorectal cancer lol.)

Dalek Prime wrote: I was more thinking in terms of pain management,

When it comes to pain management you don't fuck around with your own creative ideas, mate. Such management is specific to each individual case and there are experts who specialise in exactly this field. Do yourself a favour and trust them.

Obvious Leo wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: I was more thinking in terms of pain management,

When it comes to pain management you don't fuck around with your own creative ideas, mate. Such management is specific to each individual case and there are experts who specialise in exactly this field. Do yourself a favour and trust them.

In my experience, only you can know what is the best dose at any given time. As long as you are aware of the danger of addiction, and are happy to accept a certain level of pain rather than pretend to yourself that is is a good idea to drop pills to make it all go away then you know best what to take.
Whilst it is important to listen to the Doctor they can't tell what it is like to be inside you and feel what you are feeling. During my cancer treatment, I resisted the temptation to stick to the doctors' recommendations and as a result I took far less pain killers and had less of a problem quitting them in the end.

At the height of my pain the doctors were telling me to take 6 300mg of Tramadol (Zydol) everyday, and as such oral morphine as I thought I needed. But at times of acute pain, I occasionally snorted half a tab (not recommended).
I took 2 Tramadol and about a quarter of the prescribed morphine.
A couple of weeks after the treatment as the pain began to subside, I was more easily able to start kicking the drugs, and got back on my feet the sooner.

thedoc wrote:I believe a bullet works faster than a pill, let me know how that works out, if you still can.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Ehr ... gic_Bullet

PhilX

Obvious Leo wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: I was more thinking in terms of pain management,

When it comes to pain management you don't fuck around with your own creative ideas, mate. Such management is specific to each individual case and there are experts who specialise in exactly this field. Do yourself a favour and trust them.

When I had my defibrillator installed, I came out of the operation and the hospital gave me a tylenol based pain killer, when I complained that it wasn't having any effect the one doctor stated "but it's the strongest pain killer we have". I said again that it wasn't having any effect and they changed me to hydrocodone and the pain was immediately reduced. Sometimes hospitals and doctors go by what is most common, rather than what is specific to a particular patient, I need to be careful to let them know when a particular medication has no effect.

thedoc wrote:

Obvious Leo wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: I was more thinking in terms of pain management,

When it comes to pain management you don't fuck around with your own creative ideas, mate. Such management is specific to each individual case and there are experts who specialise in exactly this field. Do yourself a favour and trust them.

When I had my defibrillator installed, I came out of the operation and the hospital gave me a tylenol based pain killer, when I complained that it wasn't having any effect the one doctor stated "but it's the strongest pain killer we have". I said again that it wasn't having any effect and they changed me to hydrocodone and the pain was immediately reduced. Sometimes hospitals and doctors go by what is most common, rather than what is specific to a particular patient, I need to be careful to let them know when a particular medication has no effect.

Tylenol??? Is that acetominophen (paracetamol)? Hardly a strong pain killer.
Did it have any codine in it. I use "paracodamol" which is 500mg of "Tylenol", with 30mg of Codeine per pill. Two of these babies will strangle off any pain.